Missing Malaysian Plane

[Phobia]

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i think if it were hijacked, we would have heard something by now, why hijack a plane and then keep it a secret?

Hijack a plane and load it with a dirty bomb is worthy of keeping it a secret. Now with that said, I think 20 something passengers on this plane were computer chip techs so that is another angle.

4 passengers who were supposed to be on this plane didn't get on, did that leave the seats open for the hijacking passengers?

I think hijacking is sounding plausible.

First things known

1) Plane was at 30,000 feet when black box went offline. Meaning if it blew up at that height debris would be in the miles of square radius, thus being easier to find. If it crashed directly into the ocean it would be harder to find small debris field. That does not seem likely given it went offline at 30,000 feet. So turned off from cockpit is possible.

2) There is real time tracking applications available for flights, this flight went missing in one of the "dead zones" where real time tracking is lost.

3) Phones are supposedly still ringing and pinging, reliable, who knows.

4) This airport has had 4 or 5 hijack attempts to place bombs on planes just since 2012 I believe. It is a known hot spot for terrorism acts.

5) The 777 is the safest commercial airliner in the sky

6) A plane of that size can do tremendous damage if fitted with bomb

Now, of course anything can happen. The ocean is a big place to search, but there is a lot of coincidences that just so happen to all happen in perfect order. 4 seats open, plane goes through tracking deadzone, black box is disabled, cell phones "supposedly" still ringing, and lastly no debris discovered as of yet.

Could be crash, but it does not point that way on the outside.

[OSUFan_88]

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Sounds like the two guys with passports that were stolen are not suspects anymore.

That was my guess. Now I guess I think it was a massive electrical failure and they turned back home then crashed.

[Phobia]

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Sounds like the two guys with passports that were stolen are not suspects anymore.

That was my guess. Now I guess I think it was a massive electrical failure and they turned back home then crashed.

It must of been someone using their cell phone on the plane that knocked out all the electrical

[Phobia]

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The missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 was last seen above the Strait of Malacca according to the Malaysian military, over an hour after it disappeared from air traffic control screens.

If confirmed, the reports mean that the plane flew one hour and 10 minutes after it was last detected by air traffic control screens over Igari, between Malaysia and Vietnam.

New info.......

[LowerWolf]

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That certainly makes a crash seem less likely.

[shugknight]

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I thought this was pretty cool for those that want to help:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/03/crowdsourcing-the-search-for-malaysia-flight-370/

[Knight165]

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Hijack a plane and load it with a dirty bomb is worthy of keeping it a secret. Now with that said, I think 20 something passengers on this plane were computer chip techs so that is another angle.

4 passengers who were supposed to be on this plane didn't get on, did that leave the seats open for the hijacking passengers?

I think hijacking is sounding plausible.

First things known

1) Plane was at 30,000 feet when black box went offline. Meaning if it blew up at that height debris would be in the miles of square radius, thus being easier to find. If it crashed directly into the ocean it would be harder to find small debris field. That does not seem likely given it went offline at 30,000 feet. So turned off from cockpit is possible.

2) There is real time tracking applications available for flights, this flight went missing in one of the "dead zones" where real time tracking is lost.

3) Phones are supposedly still ringing and pinging, reliable, who knows.

4) This airport has had 4 or 5 hijack attempts to place bombs on planes just since 2012 I believe. It is a known hot spot for terrorism acts.

5) The 777 is the safest commercial airliner in the sky

6) A plane of that size can do tremendous damage if fitted with bomb

Now, of course anything can happen. The ocean is a big place to search, but there is a lot of coincidences that just so happen to all happen in perfect order. 4 seats open, plane goes through tracking deadzone, black box is disabled, cell phones "supposedly" still ringing, and lastly no debris discovered as of yet.

Could be crash, but it does not point that way on the outside.

I don't think you can turn off the black/orange boxes from the cockpit.
As a matter of fact...I'm pretty sure they cannot be turned off at all...even remotely.

Also...I would think that a debris field spread over a large area would be EASIER to find.....there are a lot of things that float on a plane(including bodies I'm afraid...at least for a while)...and while yes....a large area of debris in one location is easier to spot.....you have to be looking at that particular area.
A larger area of debris spread out.....increases the chances and ease of something in that debris to be spotted....although harder to see at first.

M.K.
Knight165

[mgoblue]

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I don't think you can turn off the black/orange boxes from the cockpit.
As a matter of fact...I'm pretty sure they cannot be turned off at all...even remotely.

Also...I would think that a debris field spread over a large area would be EASIER to find.....there are a lot of things that float on a plane(including bodies I'm afraid...at least for a while)...and while yes....a large area of debris in one location is easier to spot.....you have to be looking at that particular area.
A larger area of debris spread out.....increases the chances and ease of something in that debris to be spotted....although harder to see at first.

M.K.
Knight165

I wonder if someone could turn off the transponder so people couldn't see the plane? Then it secretly flies somewhere else?

This is getting into Tom Clancy plot territory, but I'm having trouble believing we wouldn't be able to find at least one piece of wreckage....Maybe that's possible, I'm just skeptical. It's not like this is a sunk submarine that's hard to find or whatnot.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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I'm just surprised there are still dead zones in the tracking. We can get internet, GPS, everything in our car via satellites. You would think there would be technology capable of an airplane always being able to find a satellite to latch onto and make that impossible to access from the inside of the plane. You would think the government would also be able to track objects in the sky with a satellite at all times. I might be getting into Tom Clancy type stuff too though.

[8]

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Something just doesn't seem right with this. I don't want to jump to conclusions but there are just too many things that don't add up. Like reporting the two people with stolen passports were just seeking asylum. How can you 100% confirm that.

[shugknight]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/malaysia-airlines-jet-missing_n_4942411.html#112_did-the-missing-plane-turn-off-transponder

Mikael Robertsson, the co-founder of Flightradar24, said the transponder on the jet never sent a signal to that receiver, which means that if the plane did fly that way, its transponder had either been knocked out of service by damage or had been shut off.

“We see every aircraft that flies over there, even if it’s very, very low, so if it flew over there, the transponder was off,” he said.

A pilot can turn off the transponder, Mr. Robertsson said, and the fact that the last contact from the Malaysia Airlines flight’s transponder came at roughly the same time that the cockpit crew stopped communicating with ground controllers by radio suggests that that is what happened, Mr. Robertsson said. “I guess to me it sounds like they were turned off deliberately.” The plane disappeared from Flightradar24’s tracking system at 1:21 a.m. Saturday while flying at 35,000 feet over the Gulf of Thailand; Malaysia Airlines has said that the last radio communication with the pilots was at about 1:30 a.m., but has not given a precise time.

[p_rushing]

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311

Malaysia military said they tracked the flight for at least 350 miles after last contact and it turned left. So the transponder was turned off and then they immediately change course. Its very weird.

[Knight165]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...ff-transponder

I'm guessing that in addition to the transponder being turned off deliberately .....the lack of communication completely at the same time could also mean something catastrophic without warning happening.

The black/orange box is made to withstand nearly any catastrophic event.....and usually signals for 30 days, but I believe there is a radius in which that signal(even underwater) can be received.

M.K.
Knight165

[Pokes]

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I'm guessing that in addition to the transponder being turned off deliberately .....the lack of communication completely at the same time could also mean something catastrophic without warning happening.

The black/orange box is made to withstand nearly any catastrophic event.....and usually signals for 30 days, but I believe there is a radius in which that signal(even underwater) can be received.

M.K.
Knight165

Correct. But this really all depends where the plane really is. AF 447's was found well after the signals went off.

[Bruins]

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The black/orange box is made to withstand nearly any catastrophic event.....and usually signals for 30 days, but I believe there is a radius in which that signal(even underwater) can be received.

I believe I saw on the news that they have to get within a 5-10 mile radius of the black box in order to pick up its signal.