Ebola

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: Ebola

I think you mean the opposite. (When showing clarity, one would show an ability to keep one's job.) I'm an ardent Fox News watcher, but not a Shep fan (too Geraldo-ish) and I think it's irresponsible for Shep/Fox to recommend getting a flu shot ...... also a bit of a hot topic.

I don't. Didn't they take away the Judge's show when he colored outside the lines?

My point was that Shep's parent company is just as responsible at spreading panic as the other media outlets.

The flu shot is a hot topic and I'm sure this will lead to an increase in the number of peopling getting them.

[SPTO]

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See, I can listen to that Shep Smith editorial (let's face it, that's what it was) and come away thinking everything is fine la-de-da but jeez...This is the kind of mentality that leads people into a false sense of security until the crap hits the fan and you end up feeling like an idiot. I also take issue with Mr. Smith's assertion that the nurse didn't have symptoms. HELLO! She had a fever. That's a symptom if i've ever heard one. Sure it didn't hit the required 100.4 but you gotta err on the side of caution here.

He does have a point about being overly scared and "petrified". We shouldn't be running around like Chicken Little but the way he frames the issue makes it seem like showing ANY level of concern and being proactive is the wrong thing to do. That's pretty irresponsible IMO. Bringing up the public affairs show I watched recently again, one of the reason SARS didn't become an issue was because everyone and their mother was vigilant AND took immediate and proactive steps to keep it from becoming a thing. The way Ebola is being reacted to by some people is pretty damn disappointing and rather than putting out a message that's calm, measured but vigilant we're getting mixed messages from different news outlets while the medical professionals seem to be bungling things left and right.

Look, I don't care where you stand on issues and such all I care about is the health and safety of everyone here. So I really hope the health care professionals get their act together and that we as a society take a proactive approach to things. I don't think we need to pause our lives or anything. Let's just be safe out there.

[Chip Douglass]

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I think some of you are being very naive or pig headed that this is a whole different ball game here...than in west Africa.

Except it really is a whole new ballgame compared to West Africa. It's not exactly coincidental that the epicenter of the Ebola outbreak (West Africa) is one of the poorest areas on the planet, an area where illiteracy rates of nearly 50% make it hard to mount a public information campaign against Ebola.

I'm more worried about the government's handling of Ebola than the virus itself, which is probably where most people lie on this issue. When I read stories about the CDC asking passengers on the second nurse's flight to contact them, rather than getting the flight manifest and contacting the passengers themselves, I grow slightly concerned.

[TheMatrix31]

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Well yeah, that's the issue. Maybe the virus itself is hard to spread but everyone in charge is handling this in such a dumb ****ing fashion that that's how we're going to get ****ed on this.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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The people who were in the apartment with Duncan have until Sunday until they are cleared. Of course they could still start to show symptoms, but as of now the only other people who are sick are the ones who had contact with vomit, diarrhea, etc. It seems like if it could be easily spread when the only symptom is a low grade fever than the outbreak in Africa would have been worse. I doubt anyone there had a thermometer and is monitoring their temperature to the a tenth of a degree.

[jasontoddwhitt]

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We need Colonel Sam Daniels on the case....



Our own stupidity is what's going to cause this thing to spread like wildfire. And the CDC isn't helping matters. Telling a woman who treated an ebola patient that it was okay to fly despite running a low-grade a fever. Or NBC's own chief medical expert breaking her quarantine to grab lunch.

[Brandon13]

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http://m.wapt.com/news/hazlehurst-parents-concerned-with-principals-trip-to-africa/29135134

An enormous crowd of parents pulled their children out of school Wednesday after learning that the Hazlehurst Middle School principal returned to work after a trip to southern Africa.

Principal Lee Wannik traveled to Zambia for his brother’s funeral, which is far from the Ebola hot spot countries on the other side of Africa.

Oh Mississippi. Those parents didn't even realize that their city sits much closer to active cases of ebola than does the country in Africa that the principal visited.

[legendkiller5]

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http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Rare-viral-case-not-Ebola-suspected-in-Clear-5827690.php?cmpid=bna

Ebola has still not surfaced in Houston, but area health officials said Thursday a local patient may have another exotic dieadly virus – MERS.

Cool, bruh.

[daflyboys]

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Takes a special kind of person to do this:

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Liberia is still under a dictatorial model. It's no wonder the resources are so fractured.

[Knight165]

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Except it really is a whole new ballgame compared to West Africa. It's not exactly coincidental that the epicenter of the Ebola outbreak (West Africa) is one of the poorest areas on the planet, an area where illiteracy rates of nearly 50% make it hard to mount a public information campaign against Ebola.

I'm more worried about the government's handling of Ebola than the virus itself, which is probably where most people lie on this issue. When I read stories about the CDC asking passengers on the second nurse's flight to contact them, rather than getting the flight manifest and contacting the passengers themselves, I grow slightly concerned.

Well...I was trying to say that it very well could be a whole different ballgame here in the U.S. albeit for different reasons.

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

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I do medical sales, I interact with medical professionals and come in contact with patients often in elevators, on stretchers, etc. I'm constantly in and out of hospitals all over Louisiana all the time. So I would say my "contact" chance is of the higher variety and no I don't find it "callous", it is realistic that it is not a concern currently (maybe a .000001% [Random Number] chance you could come in contact with it currently in the US).

Now I'm not saying go lick Africans lol, I just find perspective on the situation is a bit skewed of the current situation in America. Wash your hands, don't put your hands and stuff in your mouth, be mindful of your surrounding and people who are sick. Basically treat it like you would any other day of the week trying not to get the flu from someone else. Do those things and basically everyone here on OS will not come in contact with this virus, at least not in a long long time unless this thing really blows wide open. I know as a cop Knight you are forced to be hands on but your likely hood of contraction is still so low you have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting Ebola.

I am not a police officer any longer. That was close to twenty years ago.
I am a Fireman for the last 19+.
......and your thoughts and opinions are fine ....for yourself. I won't tell you how to feel about or react to your situation.
My main beef here is people very much outside of my situation trying to tell me that I'm overly worried.....and over reacting. I don't think I am. I'm not freaking out and avoiding anyone....not calling in sick to avoid work....
But on your advice to wash....be aware...etc...
If you can find a way to do this in a TyVek suit........
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There is a department of 10,000 member awaiting your call.
I work 2 miles from J.F.K. airport and cover 3 highways coming and going from there.

-Blood? check
-Sharp metal?-check
-chaos(controlled)?-check
-People flying in from all over the world?-check
-Ebola carrier?- ???

It's the unknown in that equation that bothers me most.

M.K.
Knight165

[Phobia]

Re: Ebola

I am not a police officer any longer. That was close to twenty years ago.
I am a Fireman for the last 19+.
......and your thoughts and opinions are fine ....for yourself. I won't tell you how to feel about or react to your situation.
My main beef here is people very much outside of my situation trying to tell me that I'm overly worried.....and over reacting. I don't think I am. I'm not freaking out and avoiding anyone....not calling in sick to avoid work....
But on your advice to wash....be aware...etc...
If you can find a way to do this in a TyVek suit........
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/HZ6uYXvE4BU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
There is a department of 10,000 member awaiting your call.
I work 2 miles from J.F.K. airport and cover 3 highways coming and going from there.

-Blood? check
-Sharp metal?-check
-chaos(controlled)?-check
-People flying in from all over the world?-check
-Ebola carrier?- ???

It's the unknown in that equation that bothers me most.

M.K.
Knight165

Very true, no one can tell you how to feel or how yourself should handle the situation. I mean lets be honest we are over a message board, I highly doubt any of this will influence someones thought process of the situation. Now with that said, trust me I don't even attempt to understand the "mind set" of what you guys do and the little things a average Joe would overlook that is dangerous in you guys situation day in and day out. Your job does entail a lot of "unknowns" I would imagine on any given situation. I respect what you guys do and I mean that from the police and fire sides.

At end of the day we will all handle this situation differently. I think that is clear from this thread. While I might think it is illogical to feel worried about it in this given situation, others might view my thought process as lackadaisically or naive.

At end of the day we can be all grateful it is not a huge immediate threat and we can go about our lives some what normal. I don't think the people in Africa are so lucky.

[Knight165]

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Very true, no one can tell you how to feel or how yourself should handle the situation. I mean lets be honest we are over a message board, I highly doubt any of this will influence someones thought process of the situation. Now with that said, trust me I don't even attempt to understand the "mind set" of what you guys do and the little things a average Joe would overlook that is dangerous in you guys situation day in and day out. Your job does entail a lot of "unknowns" I would imagine on any given situation. I respect what you guys do and I mean that from the police and fire sides.

At end of the day we will all handle this situation differently. I think that is clear from this thread. While I might think it is illogical to feel worried about it in this given situation, others might view my thought process as lackadaisically or naive.

At end of the day we can be all grateful it is not a huge immediate threat and we can go about our lives some what normal. I don't think the people in Africa are so lucky.

Thank you and thanks for understanding.
Your last sentence....and understatement.
That video from dafly.....eye opener.
That man in the video.....wow.....MAJOR kudos/props/atta boys and just flat out respect for that guy.
I work for the busiest emergency dept. in the world...but that guy is putting his life on the line 1000X more than any of us(F.D.)....and under horrific support and conditions.

M.K.
Knight165

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Ebola

One of these dumb**** healthcare workers handled Patient Zero's **** and then got on a ****ing cruise ship to Belize.

Yeah THATS a great idea.

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Re: Ebola

One of these dumb**** healthcare workers handled Patient Zero's **** and then got on a ****ing cruise ship to Belize.

Yeah THATS a great idea.

But don't worry the CDC is keeping track of them. (sarcasm font x10)