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[l3ulvl]

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What's the correct attire for a police interview? Should you shower and change into your jeans and hoodie or is it better to wear your blood stained suit and tie?

[TheMatrix31]

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Dressing properly for an interview is the most basic interview etiquette, though. Interviews are about making a good first impression - well enough to be called back for a second interview. Unless you're given specific instructions to dress a certain way then I don't see why you would risk the chance of dressing down.

The first interview I had a few weeks ago, I wore slacks, dress shirt and a tie.

Upon arrival, I found myself feeling incredibly overdressed, and it came up in the interview and the lady said "yeah we're pretty casual, I dressed up for this" and she definitely was not dressed special at all.

Second interview is tomorrow/today. I'm.....somewhat confused on what to wear. Less than before, but still casualy slacks and a dressy-but-not-suit shirt? Or khakis and a polo? Or khakis and the dress shirt? Or slacks with a polo which don't really go together? I'll probably be safe and go with the casualy slacks and dressy-but-not-suit shirt.

I'll get casual if I get the position, haha. It's not a lawyer or finance thing anyway.

Is this the interview where I should tell them that I have some travel arrangements planned already for Friday-Tue of Memorial Day weekend and all of July 4th week or is that something I should mention after a job offer is made?


All these formalities and protocols are generally cumbersome for someone like myself.

[NDAlum]

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Any legal minds here?

Saw a video on youtube of dumbest criminals. Cops get called to a bar for a couple fighting. Cops arrive and arrest the guy.

They then search his vehicle. The guy protested (because there were drugs of course) asking them why they can search the vehicle, cops response was because he has been arrested.

Er what? What he was arrested for had nothing to do with the vehicle. The video must have left something out that gave the cops probable cause to search his vehicle right?

Search incident to arrest = you can search person

Person possesses drugs or paraphernalia you can go into their car
OR
You observe probably cause in plain view in the vehicle belonging to person

Several years back they made a change to searches after arrests and they continue to make it more strict. Let's say I arrest you for an outstanding warrant...years past you could search the vehicle you're in without question. Now you need to develop PC to search the vehicle.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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The first interview I had a few weeks ago, I wore slacks, dress shirt and a tie.

Upon arrival, I found myself feeling incredibly overdressed, and it came up in the interview and the lady said "yeah we're pretty casual, I dressed up for this" and she definitely was not dressed special at all.

Second interview is tomorrow/today. I'm.....somewhat confused on what to wear. Less than before, but still casualy slacks and a dressy-but-not-suit shirt? Or khakis and a polo? Or khakis and the dress shirt? Or slacks with a polo which don't really go together? I'll probably be safe and go with the casualy slacks and dressy-but-not-suit shirt.

I'll get casual if I get the position, haha. It's not a lawyer or finance thing anyway.

Is this the interview where I should tell them that I have some travel arrangements planned already for Friday-Tue of Memorial Day weekend and all of July 4th week or is that something I should mention after a job offer is made?


All these formalities and protocols are generally cumbersome for someone like myself.

For both of my in-person interviews I came from work so I was wearing my typical work attire (dress pants, long-sleeve button up, tie, dress coat). My first interview I wore dress pants, dress shirt, and a blazer. During that interview I learned that casual dress was the attire of the office (jeans/khakis, collared shirt) and of course I was overdressed for the interview.

For the second interview I could have dressed down, but I wore the same type of outfit except I dropped the blazer for a nice leather jacket. Part of my on-site interview was with the Chief Operating Officer and she wore a suit so I felt in-line with her. The second part of the interview I met with the department heads for Customer Service and IT. They were dressed fairly casually as per the culture of the office. Still, I've been wearing shirts and ties for so long that I still felt within my element. It helped maintain my confidence level and keep my head from overthinking too many things.

I feel like anybody can dress down for a job once they get it. Preparing for an interview is a multi-prong effort and presenting yourself professionally speaks not only to your preparation, but also for your seriousness in wanting the job. Of course it's only a part of the process. The more prepared you are the more confidence you should have and the less to worry about unless they spring some truly bizarre questions on you.

As for the time-off. I wouldn't worry about that unless it was less than a month out at which point I think you need to be up front with them. If they bring up PTO benefits then that would be the ideal time to mention, "hey, I have these travel arrangements already, is this OK?" More than a month I would tell them about it if they offer you the job or during orientation.

Honestly, though, each company has a different protocol so I would do what I thought was best for the situation.

[NDAlum]

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Smell falls under probable cause. But that only works when you've been smoking. I don't think any cop would try to claim that they could smell a sealed bag of weed that was hidden in a vehicle.

As for my friend, he wasn't a fool. If he was carrying, he wouldn't give cops reason by being belligerent. And if he had product in the car, he wouldn't be under the influence. So I believe him because basically what he said happened was that the cop threaten to call in the k9 unit, and he asked if they are going to detain him just because he failed to use his turn single. Cop went to his car for a few minutes, came back with the ticket and told him he could go.

Remember the movie line its not about what you know but what you can prove? Most of the time if the cops are worth anything they know who the local players are. But they cannot just search because they "know."

Its like a poker game if you think about it. That cop could have detained him. If he was carrying, cop could have cited suspicious behavior, even if he didn't act suspicious. But if he didn't have anything, well that could be a possible civil rights lawsuit. After that the cops would have to give him a wide berth. So who calls who's bluff?

You would be shocked to know how many people roll around with their car smelling like drugs and they don't even realize it. They might be so used to the smell it doesn't set off an alarm in their head.

It's hard for me to speak about your friends situation because we simply get his side of everything. A traffic stop is technically a seizure/detention.

I don't know the exact language used at scene. An officer would need to provide some context for requesting a drug K9 to respond to the scene and yes, there is a time limit on it. If an officer can't determine probable cause for a search on their own and they have reasons x/y/z to believe that crime might be afoot they can utilize additional resources.

Does your friend have a criminal history of dealing drugs?
Rental car? -> Drug dealers use these to move product
High drug area? Did he just drive away from a drug dealer/users house?
Time of day?
Suspicious behavior?
Inconsistent story of what they're doing?

To call policing a game of cat and mouse at times would be completely accurate.

[z Revis]

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I think once an arrest happens he forfeits his option to deny a vehicle search

Now I'm wondering, has anyone ever denied a vehicle search and gotten away with it? It feels like once someone says "no" to a vehicle search the cops go right to the "send canine to my location". I watch too much Cops

I did a few years back. Cop pulled me over for a seatbelt violation and asked if he could search my car. I was in a hurry so I wasn’t trying to wait around. I asked him why and he said because there’s been lots of drug activity in the area and just wanted to make sure I’m clean. I said well I don’t do drugs so sorry but no, it’d be a waste of both of our time. He said ok and gave me my ticket and that was it.

Now, and maybe NDAlum can confirm this or not, I feel like if I let him search my car and he found nothing he would’ve given me a warning on the seatbelt violation. I think it’s an unwritten incentive type thing to letting them search your car. That’s just been my experience anyway. I let a cop search my car like 7-8 years ago after a minor speeding infraction and he gave me a warning on that after he found nothing in the car. That’s happened to a friend as well.


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[countryboy]

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My Dad is going home from the hospital today after a 6 day stay.

[Blzer]

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My Dad is going home from the hospital today after a 6 day stay.

Heaven knows you need him in your life more than ever right now, man. Good looking out.

[pietasterp]

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The first interview I had a few weeks ago, I wore slacks, dress shirt and a tie.

Upon arrival, I found myself feeling incredibly overdressed, and it came up in the interview and the lady said "yeah we're pretty casual, I dressed up for this" and she definitely was not dressed special at all.

Second interview is tomorrow/today. I'm.....somewhat confused on what to wear. Less than before, but still casualy slacks and a dressy-but-not-suit shirt? Or khakis and a polo? Or khakis and the dress shirt? Or slacks with a polo which don't really go together? I'll probably be safe and go with the casualy slacks and dressy-but-not-suit shirt.

I'll get casual if I get the position, haha. It's not a lawyer or finance thing anyway.

Is this the interview where I should tell them that I have some travel arrangements planned already for Friday-Tue of Memorial Day weekend and all of July 4th week or is that something I should mention after a job offer is made?


All these formalities and protocols are generally cumbersome for someone like myself.

For both of my in-person interviews I came from work so I was wearing my typical work attire (dress pants, long-sleeve button up, tie, dress coat). My first interview I wore dress pants, dress shirt, and a blazer. During that interview I learned that casual dress was the attire of the office (jeans/khakis, collared shirt) and of course I was overdressed for the interview.

For the second interview I could have dressed down, but I wore the same type of outfit except I dropped the blazer for a nice leather jacket. Part of my on-site interview was with the Chief Operating Officer and she wore a suit so I felt in-line with her. The second part of the interview I met with the department heads for Customer Service and IT. They were dressed fairly casually as per the culture of the office. Still, I've been wearing shirts and ties for so long that I still felt within my element. It helped maintain my confidence level and keep my head from overthinking too many things.

I feel like anybody can dress down for a job once they get it. Preparing for an interview is a multi-prong effort and presenting yourself professionally speaks not only to your preparation, but also for your seriousness in wanting the job. Of course it's only a part of the process. The more prepared you are the more confidence you should have and the less to worry about unless they spring some truly bizarre questions on you.

As for the time-off. I wouldn't worry about that unless it was less than a month out at which point I think you need to be up front with them. If they bring up PTO benefits then that would be the ideal time to mention, "hey, I have these travel arrangements already, is this OK?" More than a month I would tell them about it if they offer you the job or during orientation.

Honestly, though, each company has a different protocol so I would do what I thought was best for the situation.

Not much to add to Fresh Tendrils. I'd make it easy on yourself and wear the same thing as you did in the first interview, and don't over-think it. You can always go casual after you start working there.

[ggsimmonds]

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I wonder why he would ask to search in the first place if there was nothing but a turn signal. Maybe he's been arrested before or had something on his record that would draw the suspicion, but nothing tangible from that specific traffic stop and your friend played his cards right

You would be shocked to know how many people roll around with their car smelling like drugs and they don't even realize it. They might be so used to the smell it doesn't set off an alarm in their head.

It's hard for me to speak about your friends situation because we simply get his side of everything. A traffic stop is technically a seizure/detention.

I don't know the exact language used at scene. An officer would need to provide some context for requesting a drug K9 to respond to the scene and yes, there is a time limit on it. If an officer can't determine probable cause for a search on their own and they have reasons x/y/z to believe that crime might be afoot they can utilize additional resources.

Does your friend have a criminal history of dealing drugs?
Rental car? -> Drug dealers use these to move product
High drug area? Did he just drive away from a drug dealer/users house?
Time of day?
Suspicious behavior?
Inconsistent story of what they're doing?

To call policing a game of cat and mouse at times would be completely accurate.

What you two said goes back to what I mentioned earlier about good police knowing who the local players are. Besides, something I've noticed from my time living in Baltimore then DC then moving to Texas, lets just say dem boys in Texas are loud. No job but candy paint, banging sound system, and spokes on the rims? One could only guess why the police suspect him lol.

Search incident to arrest = you can search person

Person possesses drugs or paraphernalia you can go into their car
OR
You observe probably cause in plain view in the vehicle belonging to person

Several years back they made a change to searches after arrests and they continue to make it more strict. Let's say I arrest you for an outstanding warrant...years past you could search the vehicle you're in without question. Now you need to develop PC to search the vehicle.

Right but what if you weren't in a vehicle at all? From what the video showed, cops get called out to a bar fight. Arrest the guy in the bar, walk him to the patrol car, ask where his vehicle is, then say they are searching it.

Something had to have been edited out right?

Even if the owner of the establishment wanted the vehicle removed, it would be towed but that not grounds for a search is it?

[Speedy]

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Anybody good with lawncare?

My yard is EXTREMELY bumpy...there are so many dips and ripples that I feel like I just went thru a roller coaster after I finish mowing.

Is there a way to fix this without completely having to resod my yard? Perhaps I can rent a steamroller. [emoji848]

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[Majingir]

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One thing I saw someone use is something like


It'd obviously be heavy, and don't know difference in cost between getting someone to do it VS doing it yourself VS just redoing entire yard. From looking online, something like that might be $100-$300 or so, depending on size. Wouldn't be surprised if it's cheaper getting someone to do it, although if it might happen multiple times, buying that might be cheaper.

[dubcity]

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What's the correct attire for a police interview? Should you shower and change into your jeans and hoodie or is it better to wear your blood stained suit and tie?

That's your call, Ray. (Mr. Lewis)

[Caulfield]

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Is there a way to fix this without completely having to resod my yard?

Move.


:|

[TheMatrix31]

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For both of my in-person interviews I came from work so I was wearing my typical work attire (dress pants, long-sleeve button up, tie, dress coat). My first interview I wore dress pants, dress shirt, and a blazer. During that interview I learned that casual dress was the attire of the office (jeans/khakis, collared shirt) and of course I was overdressed for the interview.

For the second interview I could have dressed down, but I wore the same type of outfit except I dropped the blazer for a nice leather jacket. Part of my on-site interview was with the Chief Operating Officer and she wore a suit so I felt in-line with her. The second part of the interview I met with the department heads for Customer Service and IT. They were dressed fairly casually as per the culture of the office. Still, I've been wearing shirts and ties for so long that I still felt within my element. It helped maintain my confidence level and keep my head from overthinking too many things.

I feel like anybody can dress down for a job once they get it. Preparing for an interview is a multi-prong effort and presenting yourself professionally speaks not only to your preparation, but also for your seriousness in wanting the job. Of course it's only a part of the process. The more prepared you are the more confidence you should have and the less to worry about unless they spring some truly bizarre questions on you.

As for the time-off. I wouldn't worry about that unless it was less than a month out at which point I think you need to be up front with them. If they bring up PTO benefits then that would be the ideal time to mention, "hey, I have these travel arrangements already, is this OK?" More than a month I would tell them about it if they offer you the job or during orientation.

Honestly, though, each company has a different protocol so I would do what I thought was best for the situation.

I went with the casual-y slacks and the casual-y button down shirt. Worked fine I think.

I brought up the vacation plans when she asked about when I'd be ready to start if I got the job. I thought it was a good time to say so. She seemed OK with it but I think it'd probably be unpaid leave since there's only a week vacation time the first year, apparently.