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  • canes21
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    • Sep 2008
    • 22935

    #4201
    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

    Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
    And to be honest, any illness that is airborne that can be transmitted with no symptoms is almost impossible to contain no matter what plan you have.
    This right here is an important point that is overlooked. Covid-19 is a ridiculous disease that was going to spread no matter what.
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    • SmashMan
      All Star
      • Dec 2004
      • 9757

      #4202
      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

      Originally posted by canes21
      This right here is an important point that is overlooked. Covid-19 is a ridiculous disease that was going to spread no matter what.
      I don’t think it’s overlooked - is anyone saying that it would’ve been entirely prevented or stopped from spreading? We can do without the strawman, no?

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      • canes21
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        • Sep 2008
        • 22935

        #4203
        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

        Originally posted by SmashMan
        I don’t think it’s overlooked - is anyone saying that it would’ve been entirely prevented or stopped from spreading? We can do without the strawman, no?
        Actually, yes they have.
        Originally posted by Scott
        The point is, it’s everywhere. They’ve now had 77 people die from a virus that could have been prevented if we would have had leadership take it seriously.


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        • SmashMan
          All Star
          • Dec 2004
          • 9757

          #4204
          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

          Originally posted by canes21
          Actually, yes they have.
          Fair enough. One person certainly counts as anyone, haha.

          I still don't think it's mentioned enough to justify how often it's brought as a counterpoint to argue against, but it is what it is.

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          • Master Live 013
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            • Oct 2013
            • 12430

            #4205
            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52828

              #4206
              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

              So we're ok that the administration wasn't proactive in protecting its citizens because the virus was going to spread and we couldn't 100% prevent it?
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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #4207
                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                This adminstration lost the benefit of the doubt with me on day one so there's no way in hell I'm going to rely on their judgement to reduce or outright ignore already established pandemic protocols.



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                • steelerfan
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4350

                  #4208
                  Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  So we're ok that the administration wasn't proactive in protecting its citizens because the virus was going to spread and we couldn't 100% prevent it?
                  We will find out in 3 months.

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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22935

                    #4209
                    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    So we're ok that the administration wasn't proactive in protecting its citizens because the virus was going to spread and we couldn't 100% prevent it?
                    Did I ever directly say that? No. That isn't my stance at all. I've already stated MULTIPLE times in this thread alone that things were not handled properly. But this virus was never going to not spread. Could we have slowed the spread? 100%. I am of the opinion that is was going to cause a lot of issues and deaths even if our leaders had done a much better job just because the virus itself is so efficient at what it does.



                    Because I believe the virus was going to spread and become a national problem no matter what does not mean I excuse anybody's inaction or poor action. I hope that clears it up for you.
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                    • canes21
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 22935

                      #4210
                      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                      Originally posted by SmashMan
                      Fair enough. One person certainly counts as anyone, haha.

                      I still don't think it's mentioned enough to justify how often it's brought as a counterpoint to argue against, but it is what it is.
                      When did I ever say everyone overlooks that? All I said is that it is overlooked and I stand by that opinion. Turn on the news, read articles, get on social media. I see people constantly overlooking the fact that so many asymptomatic carriers can easily spread the disease without knowing so. I'm not saying everyone overlooks it, but from what I have personally seen I believe it is overlooked too often.



                      We can discuss why it is overlooked too often and I would make the argument that we as a populace have not been educated properly enough on the virus. We haven't been fed enough facts from leadership and that has led to too many people leaning on other sources to learn that they really shouldn't be.
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                      • Caulfield
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                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #4211
                        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                        so Birmingham wants to make masks mandatory all the way to the end of flu season next spring to see if it can help slow that too
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                        • PeoplesChampGB
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                          • May 2012
                          • 6005

                          #4212
                          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          So we're ok that the administration wasn't proactive in protecting its citizens because the virus was going to spread and we couldn't 100% prevent it?
                          He banned travel from China and was called a racist.

                          Dr. Fauci said masks were not needed. That's not Trump's fault.

                          Sure, you could say "It's the flu" was not factually accurate, but even if he factually said "10x deadlier than the flu", I doubt people would've taken it seriously anyway.

                          EDIT: Sweden is still doing good, all things considered. They have fewer deaths per capita than Britain and their recession was only half of what was ours.
                          Last edited by PeoplesChampGB; 08-14-2020, 07:39 PM.
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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52828

                            #4213
                            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                            Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
                            He banned travel from China and was called a racist.

                            Dr. Fauci said masks were not needed. That's not Trump's fault.

                            Sure, you could say "It's the flu" was not factually accurate, but even if he factually said "10x deadlier than the flu", I doubt people would've taken it seriously anyway.


                            In January he said there was nothing to worry about he had it under control.

                            A short time later he said he was calling it a pandemic before it was a pandemic.

                            As for Fauci it’s called science and you learn as you gather information.

                            If agent orange doesn’t claim it’s nothing to worry about and took it seriously from the get go and not try to be smarter than science and you know doctors, then maybe just maybe we would’ve taken this seriously from the start and gotten ahead of things instead of being behind the 8 ball this far into it.


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                            • PeoplesChampGB
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                              • May 2012
                              • 6005

                              #4214
                              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              In January he said there was nothing to worry about he had it under control.

                              Would it have been better if he said he didn't have it under control? Who wants to hear that from their leader?

                              A short time later he said he was calling it a pandemic before it was a pandemic.

                              He was right then, even if it officially wasn't a pandemic yet.

                              As for Fauci it’s called science and you learn as you gather information.

                              That's not true. Fauci has stated that he said masks weren't needed so we didn't face a PPE shortage. The evidence was there of how deadly the virus was. We even calculated it ourselves in the early parts of this thread. And it's steadily remained the same number.

                              If agent orange doesn’t claim it’s nothing to worry about and took it seriously from the get go and not try to be smarter than science and you know doctors, then maybe just maybe we would’ve taken this seriously from the start and gotten ahead of things instead of being behind the 8 ball this far into it.

                              Again, would you have your leader say he didn't have it under control?
                              And again, Fauci lied even though the science said otherwise.


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                              • Speedy
                                #Ace
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 16143

                                #4215
                                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                                I don't know what in sam hill to believe anymore. I miss the Walter Cronkites.

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