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  • dubcity
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    • May 2012
    • 17876

    #4126
    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

    Originally posted by canes21
    Here are some numbers for the IFR value. These are not nation-wide numbers, they are for Minnesota only, but these sourced numbers show how the IFR dives off of a cliff when you take away the elderly individuals. Again, I want to reiterate that these elderly people are people too, and it is difficult to talk numbers without it coming off as insensitive, but in order for us to talk numbers and decisions, people have to be put into groups and this is true for not only pandemic talks, but for the majority of decisions made in life. You're not going to go through life not having to make a decision that doesn't force you to paint people as statistics for a second, especially in leadership roles.

    And even that 0.45% for 60+ is really weighted heavily toward 75+. The CDC numbers since March/April to now have stayed consistent showing that 60% of Covid deaths are from people 75+.

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    • canes21
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      • Sep 2008
      • 22935

      #4127
      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

      Originally posted by roadman
      Yep, agree Canes, and for this virus, I'm living for my parents and grandparents living longer lives than what Covid could give them, it's always been about that and that is how I was raised by my parents.

      All four of them are in a vulnerable age group and grandparents are vulnerable in health related areas.

      Good find.
      Yes, like I mentioned before, my grandfather passed away in April at 79. I've taken extreme precaution to continue to see my grandmother who will be 80 next week. When I felt sick for a week last month, I quarantined myself for a bit and then still took another grace period of two weeks of feeling no symptoms at all before I ever went to visit her again.

      Most of the guys in my group of friends feel similarly about the pandemic. We aren't really fearful that if we contract the disease we will have an unfortunate fate. It's always possible, but 100% of us have legitimate worries with regards to our grandparents/parents who are in the vulnerable age brackets and/or are at high risk with conditions like diabetes. We all take precautions with making sure we visit with them responsibly.
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      • canes21
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        • Sep 2008
        • 22935

        #4128
        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

        Just for comparison, here is the numbers for NYC, obviously the place in this country that has been hit the absolute hardest. I used the same CDC estimate for the 10x infected. I also will share the link for the NYC data that was pulled straight from the .gov sit itself. The data was updated as of today, August 11th, at 1:00 pm est.

        I also added in a percentage breakdwon of cases and deaths for each age group.



        Last edited by canes21; 08-11-2020, 05:22 PM. Reason: Edited to make CFR and IFR easier to read
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        • roadman
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          • Aug 2003
          • 26339

          #4129
          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

          Even 17% in my parents age range is too much to play chances with, in my opinion.

          YMMV based on your parents ages and health vulnerability.

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          • Caulfield
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            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #4130
            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

            Originally posted by roadman
            Even 17% in my parents age range is too much to play chances with, in my opinion.

            YMMV based on your parents ages and health vulnerability.
            heck, that next bracket up, 49-64 isn't worth risking either. and I'm 50
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            • KSUowls
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              • Jul 2009
              • 5894

              #4131
              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

              One other thing to remember when we think about how the 70+ bracket is driving a large part of the overall IFR or talking about the reported infectiousness of younger people; we can't forget that 164k people have died since early March from Covid in the US. I'm not saying that to humanize the statistic or appeal to any sense of emotion. Just from purely analytical standpoint that puts it in a scope that we have not seen in this country, at least not in my life time. I don't mean to rehash the covid vs. the flu argument, but it's a convenient point of comparison here. The flu doesn't kill half that many people in the worst of years. Also, when we're talking about the flu, we do not take the kind of wide spread preventative measures against it that we have against covid for the last 5 months which makes that 164k number even more scary.

              I like the various data points that are being shown. It helps to put into perspective that covid is not the end of the world. Something is obviously different and not being accounted for though (it might be as simple as the range of IFR for all age groups with the flu is much smaller, I don't know). Otherwise it simply doesn't make sense that we would have seen more than twice as many covid deaths this year versus the worst flu season of the last 4 decades (and still counting).
              Last edited by KSUowls; 08-11-2020, 06:50 PM.

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              • canes21
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                • Sep 2008
                • 22935

                #4132
                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                I took the CDC's data on the 2018-2019 flu season so we could have a comparison to the flu.



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                • DocHolliday
                  Farewell and 'ado
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 4698

                  #4133
                  CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                  The media is reporting when 4 people die in a day in Montana.

                  4 people.

                  We will never be rid of this if the media can help it.


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                  • Scott
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20032

                    #4134
                    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                    Originally posted by DocHolliday
                    The media is reporting when 4 people die in a day in Montana.

                    4 people.

                    We will never be rid of this if the media can help it.


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                    The point is, it’s everywhere. They’ve now had 77 people die from a virus that could have been prevented if we would have had leadership take it seriously.


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                    • SmashMan
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #4135
                      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                      Those four would still be with their families if only the media didn’t report it!

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                      • canes21
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22935

                        #4136
                        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                        Originally posted by Scott
                        The point is, it’s everywhere. They’ve now had 77 people die from a virus that could have been prevented if we would have had leadership take it seriously.


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                        100% of coronavirus deaths are not preventable. Let's not act like they are. People were going to die regardless if the lockdown went better or not.
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                        • Speedy
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                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #4137
                          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                          Originally posted by canes21
                          100% of coronavirus deaths are not preventable. Let's not act like they are. People were going to die regardless if the lockdown went better or not.
                          100% disagree.

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                          • canes21
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22935

                            #4138
                            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                            Originally posted by Speedy
                            100% disagree.

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                            You honestly think we could have made sure that not a single person ever died of coronavirus? Not one person?

                            If you think the pandemic has been handled poorly that is one thing, but to say all 100% of these deaths could have been prevented is taking it to the extreme.
                            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


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                            • DocHolliday
                              Farewell and 'ado
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4698

                              #4139
                              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                              Originally posted by Speedy
                              100% disagree.

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                              What? People die. Are we going to do this for every virus moving forward? Regular flu death count?


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                              • mestevo
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #4140
                                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                                Originally posted by SmashMan
                                Those four would still be with their families if only the media didn’t report it!
                                ...or if they were never tested.

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