CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

[steelerfan]

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Best of luck to you and your aunt, cjonesfan. I'm hoping for the best for both of you. [emoji256]

[roadman]

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Ugh.

Not surprising.

Even if they actually had safeguards though I don’t see how schools can open in places where the virus is still spreading really badly


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Yeah, and the three staff members are a concern as well.

It appears that some schools opening are not on the side of science, especially where the virus is spreading.

[TheShizNo1]

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My district is pushing opening as normal because a levy is on the ballot. Superintendent pretty much said as much. Got an email today saying the master schedule will have to be completely rewritten because of how many parents are choosing remote learning (kids are supposed to start the 24th).

Went to the building last week and multiple co-workers didn't have a mask on and tried to shake my hand.

Our county is red.



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[roadman]

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And the story continues:

A high school, where a photo of a crowded hallway went viral, will start the week with virtual learning after at least nine people tested positive for Covid-19

[p_rushing]

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Ugh.

Not surprising.

Even if they actually had safeguards though I don’t see how schools can open in places where the virus is still spreading really badly


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And the story continues:

A high school, where a photo of a crowded hallway went viral, will start the week with virtual learning after at least nine people tested positive for Covid-19

They closed Thursday & Friday also.

The school is in an area that isn't exactly a suburban area, but also isn't completely in the country. There was never going to be a lot of parents signing up for online schooling there. It's the same issues you have a lot of places where parents need the kids in school and frankly their only chance to learn is in a school building.

There has to be give and take, smaller class sizes, alternate days, etc but kids do need to be in school if the parents can't support their learning.

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[DocHolliday]

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The problem is there is a very real chance COVID never really goes away.

We will continue shutting things down on spikes 1,2,3,4 years from now?

It’s a terrible situation with no good answer.


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[Jr.]

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The problem is there is a very real chance COVID never really goes away.

We will continue shutting things down on spikes 1,2,3,4 years from now?

It’s a terrible situation with no good answer.


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Hopefully there's an effective vaccine, or more information comes out and gives a firmer idea of who is more susceptible to the severe symptoms and damage.

There is still so little concrete information about how this virus works.

[dubcity]

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The problem is there is a very real chance COVID never really goes away.

We will continue shutting things down on spikes 1,2,3,4 years from now?

It’s a terrible situation with no good answer.


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One thing to note: smallpox is the only disease that's ever been completely eradicated. Hard to see us treating this like we are now after an even somewhat effective vaccine circulates, though I'm sure some will hang on longer than others.

[Master Live 013]

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They closed Thursday & Friday also.

The school is in an area that isn't exactly a suburban area, but also isn't completely in the country. There was never going to be a lot of parents signing up for online schooling there. It's the same issues you have a lot of places where parents need the kids in school and frankly their only chance to learn is in a school building.

There has to be give and take, smaller class sizes, alternate days, etc but kids do need to be in school if the parents can't support their learning.

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As part of that give and take how about if everyone wore masks. Out of their own volition.

[mestevo]

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As part of that give and take how about if everyone wore masks. Out of their own volition.

Whoa now, lets not get too crazy.

[canes21]

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The problem is there is a very real chance COVID never really goes away.

We will continue shutting things down on spikes 1,2,3,4 years from now?

It’s a terrible situation with no good answer.


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It won't go away completely, but it'll probably become something similar to the Hong Kong Flu or other flu's before that many people today seem to know absolutely nothing about. The Hong Kong Flu killed over a million people worldwide and killed 100,000 Americans in the 1960's when the population of the world and the USA were much smaller than they are now.

The world population was half of what it is now, the US population was around 200 million exactly, so the Hong Kong Flu was a pandemic that is completely comparable to Covid-19.

We'll probably get a corona vaccine sometime in the future that is around 40-50% effective, a lot of the world will build up immunity to covid naturally, and we'll move on like we always do. It may even become a seasonal shot like the flu shot is as the strands change year to year.

I get that these days the media and social media love to be all doom and gloom and it works in scaring people and blowing things up, but covid-19 is not going to end the world, humanity will move on and be fine. It's tragic that we've lost as many lives as we've had.

The rough thing with talking about this pandemic is that you cannot talk about the raw numbers without it coming off as insensitive to the dead, or even as if you are downplaying the virus.

The virus is real, it has killed an incredible amount of people, but the numbers do point towards some things that can be viewed as potentially positive for a lack of better words.

1) When analyzing USA data only, around 80% of the deaths are people that were 65 or older. While I am in no way saying that older people dying is less tragic, I know how hard it is to lose someone at any age, my grandfather was 79 and passed in April, but the numbers make it clear that those people who were already at super high risk of dying to any type of respiratory complications.

2) People like to try and scare others into believing that opening campuses back up will lead to college kids dropping like flies. The numbers say that isn't really the truth. Kids that are college aged have about a 00.000006% chance of dying from covid-19. Chances are that even if these kids were sent back to campuses by the masses, their fatality rate would probably be below 1%.

Again, there is no downplaying the amount of people that are dead, there is no saying that older people dying is any less tragic, but this pandemic has seen a fair share of its information get blown up and exaggerated for what seems to be only to cause more panic and hysteria.

What needs to be focused on more is just how much people can protect themselves by being in a healthier state of being. Obesity is a large risk for covid-19. Data shows that people who are considered overweight to obese are around 27% more likely to have their coronavirus experience turn severe. People with diabetes are at a heightened risk. Smokers are at a heightened risk. Pretty much anything that is bad for anyone with an upper respiratory infection is awful for cornoavirus.

People need to be better educated on what masks are for. People seem to think that masks are to keep them from getting the virus. It can help, but masks are primarily used to keep you from unknowingly spread the virus. With how many people are asymptomatic, encouraging proper mask education should always be a priority.

There needs to be less doom and gloom with regards to the whole thing. This is a wish that will never happen. The media these days is as hyperbolic as ever and thrives on creating hysteria. Your average American thinks if they catch covid that it's a death sentence. They think it's killing people at ridiculous rates. The average person does not realize how the deaths breakdown by age and by pre-existing medical conditions. They have zero idea what the death rates are for the average individual who was extremely high risk like elderly people or someone with pre-existing conditions.

People are convinced that this thing is going to get worse and worse and we'll lose millions of lives in the USA alone. People also fail to realize that case #s cannot be used as an appropriate comparable data point for most arguments. I've seen headline after headline, post after post, and more talking about how the USA has so many positive cases compared to the rest of the world. That is simply to be expected when you use logic and realize the USA also tests more than any country out there and the margin only continues to grow.

If you take two populations, one of 10,000 and the other 50,000. If the 10,000 population performs 20,000 tests and has 4,000 positives while the other community has 8,000 tests and has 800 positives, the media would be spinning it to show how poorly the 10,000 population community is doing with regards to the 50,000 population community despite the numbers showing that both have equal ratios of tests to positive results. This type of purposeful fear mongering is causing more hysteria just like the media wants.

The fact of the matter is we need to be more concerned with the long-term health affects that the virus may have. We simply haven't had enough time to conclusively see whether or not this virus will affect people long-term. That is what should concern more people. While the average person has a very very very very small chance of dying to covid 19, they still have a chance of catching the disease since it spreads so rampantly. That is why the long-term affects should be taken seriously. It may not cause any issues for people in the long-run, but we simply do not know enough yet to say whether it does or not.

If you're one of those people who thinks we are all going to die, who thinks if they contract covid they need to prepare their will, etc. then I urge you to at least check the data from yourself. Everything I've posted here uses the CDC as a source. Their data is pretty good, it needs to be presented a lot better. Whoever manages the site has done a poor job of making it easy to break things down, but the amount of data they have and when you eventually find what you're looking for it is nice.

If more people saw the real numbers, understood the numbers, understood the point of masks, understood what they can do to limit their risks like losing weight, and understood that the long-term affects are unknown, maybe there would be less hysteria and more people would still be taking rational precautions. That's a pipe dream.

I know how the average human works. It's all too common to read headlines only, never the stories, to let click bait titles sway opinions, and to never do research. It's a sad reality we live in at times, but what can we do besides try and protect our own selves the best we can?

Anyways, apologies for the novel here, but if you want a tl;dr

tl;dr People should look at the numbers themselves, understand them better, understand what puts you more at risk health-wise, and take precautions still simply because of the unknown long-term affects of having had the illness.

[TheShizNo1]

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They closed Thursday & Friday also.

The school is in an area that isn't exactly a suburban area, but also isn't completely in the country. There was never going to be a lot of parents signing up for online schooling there. It's the same issues you have a lot of places where parents need the kids in school and frankly their only chance to learn is in a school building.

There has to be give and take, smaller class sizes, alternate days, etc but kids do need to be in school if the parents can't support their learning.

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Learning isn't going to happen in general, man. I cannot stress this enough. If people are following rules/guidelines, there will be no teachers kneeling at the kid's desk to help out. No kids coming up to the teacher's desk for extra support. No group work. Better hope you have more than a classroom set of textbooks or reading books, if not, those won't be used. No group work. No labs. No sharing materials. Kid leaves to go to the restroom...gotta monitor them sanitizing their hands while not touching anything else when they get back. Class time is going to be cut down by at least 10-ish minutes with cleaning off desks when entering and leaving the room...... and that's if there aren't desktops/laptops to clean off as well.

If we wanna say the kids need school right now to get out of ****ty home environments and what now, ok. But to act like all of a sudden kids are gonna get some typical education, no. It's flat out not going to happen right now.

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[Jr.]

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Learning isn't going to happen in general, man. I cannot stress this enough. If people are following rules/guidelines, there will be no teachers kneeling at the kid's desk to help out. No kids coming up to the teacher's desk for extra support. No group work. Better hope you have more than a classroom set of textbooks or reading books, if not, those won't be used. No group work. No labs. No sharing materials. Kid leaves to go to the restroom...gotta monitor them sanitizing their hands while not touching anything else when they get back. Class time is going to be cut down by at least 10-ish minutes with cleaning off desks when entering and leaving the room...... and that's if there aren't desktops/laptops to clean off as well.

If we wanna say the kids need school right now to get out of ****ty home environments and what now, ok. But to act like all of a sudden kids are gonna get some typical education, no. It's flat out not going to happen right now.

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Nobody making the decisions is talking about this publicly. The learning environment is not going to be what people think it will be. There's just no way.

Were doing a hybrid schedule at my school. Kids alternate days as part of a "cohort", but they're expected to bring a computer or tablet to be able to access the online classroom at school. The kids staying home are expected to "attend class" at the class time, and the teachers have to have a classroom agenda for the day that works for kids in class and at home simultaneously.

So essentially the kids at school are learning remotely. They can't interact with each other, there is no hanging out during breaks, the stress levels are going to be through the roof for kids and staff alike which is going to make learning even more difficult, etc.

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[p_rushing]

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Learning isn't going to happen in general, man. I cannot stress this enough. If people are following rules/guidelines, there will be no teachers kneeling at the kid's desk to help out. No kids coming up to the teacher's desk for extra support. No group work. Better hope you have more than a classroom set of textbooks or reading books, if not, those won't be used. No group work. No labs. No sharing materials. Kid leaves to go to the restroom...gotta monitor them sanitizing their hands while not touching anything else when they get back. Class time is going to be cut down by at least 10-ish minutes with cleaning off desks when entering and leaving the room...... and that's if there aren't desktops/laptops to clean off as well.

If we wanna say the kids need school right now to get out of ****ty home environments and what now, ok. But to act like all of a sudden kids are gonna get some typical education, no. It's flat out not going to happen right now.

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I agree that most of the kids that need to physically be in the building to have any chance at learning will continue to struggle and not learn. You can't just set a generation kids back that are already economically or environment challenged. You can at least reach a few kids if they are in the building.

Parents that are able will most likely keep them home, but still it doesn't really matter if kids are already going out. So you take the kids that are challenged and let them free at home, it's not going to be conducive to learning. Kids will find something else to do and it generally won't be good.

It's not a good situation either way, but at least in school the kids who are challenged have a chance if they take it.

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[canes21]

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I used affect every time in that post when I should have said effect, didn't I?