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  • GoBlue81188
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 1801

    #31
    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

    I rewatched my stream this morning, I’d ask others to just take a peak. I stop the game and go into replay several times in the first half.

    This isn’t a case of “user defending being a priority”. It’s an 11v11 sport, I can’t be expected to control 3/4 defenders within seconds on a counter. The AI players do not recognize the opponent is unmarked.

    Just go look at Weigl in my game (who I spotlight). He’s set to “defend” in a two man double pivot. I use tactical defending, the AI contain button does not work to “alert” AI teammates at all.

    I do want to note again that the passing speed and looseness of the ball are both huge pluses. Again, if we can’t get basic reactions down, none of it matters.

    My first thought is a huge bump to marking, and a huge drop to run frequency as a start. Just to see if we can get guys to engage.

    Maybe we go back and look at FIFA 15 logic to help point us in the right direction?
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    • adoptedscouse
      Pro
      • Oct 2013
      • 882

      #32
      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

      Only had a couple of games so far but I’ve also noticed defenders just not paying attention at all & leaving way to much space before reacting to the threat.

      Also had to set Fabinho to stay back when attacking cos I was finding him further forward than Firmino in the game. However I am liking the speed differences between players, played City & I had no issues defending against their right back until Walker came on & then tables changed. Also you see bad passes from AI on default sliders which is good.

      Now for fouls, was getting them in the demo, however that was on normal speed, on slow speed they just jockey & don’t actually dive in. So I played same game again on normal speed, fouls back including a red card for cpu. This however comes with drawbacks like 90% pass rate for AI & it’s just that little bit too quick. Ho well never mind, that’s EA, give with one hand & take away with another.


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      • fifacana
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 34

        #33
        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

        Originally posted by Matt10
        Yes, please save some of your hours if possible. I barely got any time at all last night. However, I also saw both teammate AI defending AND CPU defending...was all over the place. Even in my video posted a couple pages ago, @3:15 - you can see how bad the CB Vestergaard just jockeys himself out of position, then proceeds to jog after I've basically past him. Also seeing the Bertrand trying to recover...by marking...the corner flag?

        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1o5M-jQtaHU" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

        There are some definite issues going on with the defending logic. Really surprising to be honest. I also hope for a patch, but will get to "work" later today. Let's just hope the slider are true to their value.
        Do you mind sharing the camera settings used in this video? Thx bud.

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        • jrnlgrn
          Pro
          • Oct 2018
          • 3076

          #34
          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

          Maybe this is a dumb question but is the actual release day game a full download of its own or does the early access version just unlock itself once the day comes?

          I ask because if it's seperate is it possible that the early access version is a different build and messing with sliders now would be a lot of work for nothing if the day 1 patch is going to be changing a build of the game we currently don't have access.

          Hope that makes sense.

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          • Tabemaju
            Rookie
            • Aug 2009
            • 6

            #35
            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

            I'm surprised no one has mentioned the goalie play yet. Hoo-lee-crap are keepers bad in this game. No matter the "aggressiveness" options you give them in instructions, they WILL NOT challenge some easy crosses or pop-ups unless you're lucky enough to hammer Y at the soonest possible moment.

            Also, the lob passes are now 3 foot bullet passes that never make it over the heads of attackers. I guess my only option when any attacking player is anywhere near the keeper is to clear, even when there is an open lob pass 15 yards away? Oof.

            Their punches now suck and it seems like EVERY corner is pinballed in the box for a few seconds before you have a chance to clear it. I like the new header pop-ups and inaccuracies when they are challenged but if I have a lob going to a player, he should not be popping it up to no one.

            Anyway, I'm going back to Fifa 19, since the community sliders are absolutely perfect for my style of play. I was hoping to play Fifa 20 online, or try FUT out this year, but the gameplay is just so frustrating at this point. Hope there are some updates in the future, but seeing some of the big changes make me worried that this is only the beginning of arcade-level e-sports soccer (which I didn't think could get worse in Fifa).

            I just wish 19 allowed user-customized roster, because then I'd have no reason to play a new one... but I guess that's the point. Hell, even MADDEN allows custom rosters and community downloads!

            Edit: oh thank God, I just realized that you can mod Fifa on PC with updated rosters. Guess I'll be doing that so I can at least get my vastly-updated Gunners squad.
            Last edited by Tabemaju; 09-20-2019, 01:31 PM.

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            • Chrisx
              Rookie
              • Oct 2015
              • 297

              #36
              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

              Originally posted by jrnlgrn
              Maybe this is a dumb question but is the actual release day game a full download of its own or does the early access version just unlock itself once the day comes?
              The trial is the release version, no one will download 30+ gb again on release day. If you purchase the game only a small patch will be downloaded that will simply get rid of any "trial" mentions/icons.
              Last edited by Chrisx; 09-20-2019, 01:43 PM.

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              • jrnlgrn
                Pro
                • Oct 2018
                • 3076

                #37
                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                Originally posted by Chrisx
                The trial is the release version, no one will download 30+ gb again on release day. If you purchase the game only a small patch will be downloaded that will simply get rid of any "trial" mentions/icons.
                Thanks. That's what I figured but you never know what to expect when dealing with EA.

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                • halfbroke
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 104

                  #38
                  Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                  Originally posted by fifacana
                  Do you mind sharing the camera settings used in this video? Thx bud.
                  I would like to know as well, that camera setting looks awesome!
                  http://twitch.tv/topdownsports

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                  • Dbaja22
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 1434

                    #39
                    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                    Originally posted by halfbroke
                    I would like to know as well, that camera setting looks awesome!
                    I haven't watched the video but Matt and most of us use Broadcast height 0 zoom 20 .

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                    • AustonPowers34
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 81

                      #40
                      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                      Originally posted by Tabemaju
                      I'm surprised no one has mentioned the goalie play yet. Hoo-lee-crap are keepers bad in this game. No matter the "aggressiveness" options you give them in instructions, they WILL NOT challenge some easy crosses or pop-ups unless you're lucky enough to hammer Y at the soonest possible moment.

                      Also, the lob passes are now 3 foot bullet passes that never make it over the heads of attackers. I guess my only option when any attacking player is anywhere near the keeper is to clear, even when there is an open lob pass 15 yards away? Oof.

                      Their punches now suck and it seems like EVERY corner is pinballed in the box for a few seconds before you have a chance to clear it. I like the new header pop-ups and inaccuracies when they are challenged but if I have a lob going to a player, he should not be popping it up to no one.

                      Anyway, I'm going back to Fifa 19, since the community sliders are absolutely perfect for my style of play. I was hoping to play Fifa 20 online, or try FUT out this year, but the gameplay is just so frustrating at this point. Hope there are some updates in the future, but seeing some of the big changes make me worried that this is only the beginning of arcade-level e-sports soccer (which I didn't think could get worse in Fifa).

                      I just wish 19 allowed user-customized roster, because then I'd have no reason to play a new one... but I guess that's the point. Hell, even MADDEN allows custom rosters and community downloads!

                      Edit: oh thank God, I just realized that you can mod Fifa on PC with updated rosters. Guess I'll be doing that so I can at least get my vastly-updated Gunners squad.

                      There are so many things other EA Sports games have that FIFA could benefit from... like NHL has statistical history tracking (which FIFA 20 apparently has, now), arena customization, and more slider settings.


                      And I wish the PC version was an option for me. Even on low settings I was experiencing input lag and low framerates during cutscenes. Once I played the PS4 version everything felt and looked so much better. Such a shame because I wanted to experiment with mods n stuff.

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                      • adoptedscouse
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 882

                        #41
                        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                        This game is day & night different on normal speed compared to slow speed setting when it comes to fouls, which dam right annoys me.

                        On normal speed setting I’m seeing slide tackles, late tackles, reckless fouls, bookings & red cards by the AI.

                        Yet played the same career mode game on slow speed & saw zero fouls & any collisions that would have seen a foul called on normal speed is ignored as though the collision impact system is not even registering it.

                        I’ve also noticed players movement is less hectic & react better to loose balls & less ADD on normal speed. Things like leg placement & sprints look real, yet on slow they judder or don’t close the gap, hence the slide tackle isn’t instigated by the AI.

                        Hope this helps when looking at sliders as I’m not sure how much they can impact animations, however you can slow down players speed on normal speed setting with sliders.


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                        • Dbaja22
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1434

                          #42
                          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                          Man O Man , I'm just glad I'm loving MLB the show and Madden . Pretty sure regardless of how this game is playing atm , once the first few patches come in it will be a different game . Only question is will it be better or worse , from what I'm hearing everywhere it can't get any worse right ..... Just gotta wait and see what direction they go with the patches .

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                          • Aaron458f
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 2357

                            #43
                            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                            Originally posted by Dbaja22
                            Man O Man , I'm just glad I'm loving MLB the show and Madden . Pretty sure regardless of how this game is playing atm , once the first few patches come in it will be a different game . Only question is will it be better or worse , from what I'm hearing everywhere it can't get any worse right ..... Just gotta wait and see what direction they go with the patches .

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                            I’m guessing ea will go in whatever direction the FUT cry baby’s will want the game to play it’s the same thing every year don’t no we are surprised either


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                            • Dbaja22
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 1434

                              #44
                              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                              Originally posted by Aaron458f
                              I’m guessing ea will go in whatever direction the FUT cry baby’s will want the game to play it’s the same thing every year don’t no we are surprised either


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                              Yea exactly , year after year it's pretty much the same thing . Keep the FUT players happy and screw the CM offline players . Our voice , suggestions and feedback mean nothing . I really don't want to be negative , but how can this game be a step in the right direction from previous years . It's allways just a bunch of empty and broken promises from EA

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                              • jrnlgrn
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2018
                                • 3076

                                #45
                                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                                I posted this over in the Early Access thread figure I'd share here as well:

                                "Is everyone also posting their concerns and bugs/glitches on the official EA FIFA forums as well? I can't say if it will make a difference or not but I'm guessing making noise in an more official place helps the cause as well. Right now everyone's voices are split between different social media spaces. Sure there are probably EA folks glancing around the internet here and there but it's easier to dismiss single voices this way.

                                At the very least getting the entire FIFA community to also post their concerns in a single place couldn't hurt. It's not like you have to retype your thoughts just copy and past into the EA forums. To bad some of these game changers and popular streamers can't/won't lead the charge so we can make some real noise.

                                Basically make sure you post on the EA forums as well."
                                Last edited by jrnlgrn; 09-20-2019, 07:12 PM.
                                "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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