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  • jrnlgrn
    Pro
    • Oct 2018
    • 3076

    #1411
    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

    Originally posted by TopSide83
    What are everyone’s thoughts on game speed to play on? So far I see good things from slow and normal. Also what half length do most of you use?
    I've been on slow since the patch with no issues. 10 min halves.

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    • jrnlgrn
      Pro
      • Oct 2018
      • 3076

      #1412
      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

      Originally posted by Matt10
      There are a couple ways to tackle this. My very, very, brief test was adjust Sprint Speed to match pass speed at 48. This usually syncs things back as well. Once I did this, instantly I could see the difference in choices made. From early crosses, early through balls and lofted ones.
      Since it was mentioned I played some games @48 sprint and a pleasant side effect I noticed was that the ball physics weren't as bouncy. Seemed to still retain the benefits associated with the higher FT though. Not sure if it helps with the original issue of missing headers but I've seen that problem occasionaly over a couple of patches now. It doesn't happen often so I just chalked it up to weird things that can happen IRL and especially in FIFA.

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      • Matt10
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2006
        • 16621

        #1413
        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

        Originally posted by DavidC82
        This is a really good set. The game plays very well, I must admit.

        One bit of feedback though, FB Pos at zero is a huge no from me. They just don't step forward at all. Far more natural at fifty!
        They will step forward relative to the team tactics. However, I very subtle adjustment to FB @ 1 will allow them to be in-line during transition. This way they do not revert directly back to the defensive line, making it easy to find outlets on the wings.

        Originally posted by Qb
        I'm not sure about FB Pos @ 0 either. It definitely reigns in the end-to-end, counter down the flanks play, but at what cost? I haven't tested extensively with different teams - particularly those known for attacking fullbacks - but the early returns from a few games in my Mainz CM have inching it up to 5 to match my run frequency setting. Not sure it's properly balanced, as I can see where Matt is coming from that FB behavior didn't change much until it was zeroed out.
        At 5 it's a bit too high as they do get up the pitch, but they are caught in transition too early. With the width so low, the compensation had to be made on the sidelines, which is where FB resides. Formations and CTTs will control their attacking behavior, while the FB pos value can assist with their preset destination in transition.

        I would suggest the value of "1" so far. Here is a game with 48 Sprint, 1 FB

        <iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ase6P7YZpDcpzms8jNSC4HE4XUP6daAI/preview" width="750" height="422"></iframe>

        Originally posted by jrnlgrn
        Since it was mentioned I played some games @48 sprint and a pleasant side effect I noticed was that the ball physics weren't as bouncy. Seemed to still retain the benefits associated with the higher FT though. Not sure if it helps with the original issue of missing headers but I've seen that problem occasionaly over a couple of patches now. It doesn't happen often so I just chalked it up to weird things that can happen IRL and especially in FIFA.

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        Yes, it's much smoother in feel. I do feel as if it is more in-sync with the ball as well. This is similar to my testing in past FIFA's in trying to establish more physicality where I would adjust the pass speed and Sprint value to seek out what the referee was looking at. Out of sync, they'd be looking off to a different side of the pitch, where the ball wasn't, and in-sync, they'd remain focused in the direction of where the ball is.

        It does not mean more fouls...that's not the case at all, however it does sync things back up in my experience.
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        • DavidC82
          Rookie
          • Oct 2018
          • 31

          #1414
          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

          Originally posted by Matt10
          They will step forward relative to the team tactics. However, I very subtle adjustment to FB @ 1 will allow them to be in-line during transition. This way they do not revert directly back to the defensive line, making it easy to find outlets on the wings.
          But they don't step forward on zero! Using Spurs, where FBs are integral, they stay in line with the defence & don't step over the halfway line at all over one & a half games. Reverted it to fifty as it was very, very frustrating. Not tried one though

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          • Matt10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2006
            • 16621

            #1415
            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

            Originally posted by DavidC82
            But they don't step forward on zero! Using Spurs, where FBs are integral, they stay in line with the defence & don't step over the halfway line at all over one & a half games. Reverted it to fifty as it was very, very frustrating. Not tried one though
            It's not about stepping forward with FB Pos. It's not a defensive value. What is happening though is because the value is less, they retreat a bit quicker. As a result, it looks like they aren't stepping because they simply are not there to occupy the space. As I mentioned though, a formation or tactical change can alleviate that, such as a WB vs FB in a 3-5-2, or setting an FB to stay up, or having team defensive pressure to high. There are many variables.

            Based on the feedback, however, the slider value that can get the best of both worlds is changing the value to 1. I showed an example in one of my previous post to support that. At 1 it slightly reduces the urgency to drop back into a straight line across with the CBs, thus bringing the FB closer to the opponent naturally in transition.

            Lastly, in case it comes up, the defensive difference of Pro/World Class difficulty compared to Leg/Ultimate is that the FB latches on to an inside mark (CF for example) sooner, which can create the effect of not stepping because they are more narrowly committed. 5-back formations are not affected here as they maintain width. Defensive pressure tactic does though as it is a bit more aggressive, this easily exposed, on WC/Pro.

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            • Matt10
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2006
              • 16621

              #1416
              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

              Looks like we have a title update. Seems like all positive, but we will see. I'll try to test on PC when have a chance. My youngest has been at the ER since 3AM CST, so may be a bit till can test the set on the update.



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              • djs1
                Pro
                • Feb 2018
                • 673

                #1417
                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                Originally posted by Matt10
                Looks like we have a title update. Seems like all positive, but we will see. I'll try to test on PC when have a chance. My youngest has been at the ER since 3AM CST, so may be a bit till can test the set on the update.



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                blessings to you and yours matt hope all is ok.i have a sick little one off school too funnily enough but only flu thankfully

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                • ~LiverpoolRed~
                  YNWA
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 10755

                  #1418
                  Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                  Here comes another patch.

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                  • abbes
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 65

                    #1419
                    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                    Originally posted by ~LiverpoolRed~
                    Here comes another patch.
                    Yeah, always when everything works just great. Hopefully it will not screw the things up.

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                    • Matt10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16621

                      #1420
                      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                      No issues with the patch update in regards to the set. I've still kept the Sprint at 48 and FB at 1, which is being considered for the next update. The shape is still there, and the defensive line remains active.

                      I've been testing on Pro and WC as well. So far so good when adding a 2pt acceleration discrepancy 50/52. Think the pass and shot error for both can go down too. After that, it's still in good shape, and am happy with where things stand. I'll try to record or possibly stream if I can get things situated at home.
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                      • pflynhi
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 260

                        #1421
                        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                        I've been using 48 sprint and FB 1 as well, and the games playing great.
                        I'm sticking with Legendary/slow, losing more than winning but I'm okay with that... goals feel very rewarding for me at this difficulty, wins even more
                        PC- Fifa20 Legendary/8 min halves/Normal game speed; Pes20 Top Player/15 min match https://www.twitch.tv/pflynhi

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                        • jrnlgrn
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2018
                          • 3076

                          #1422
                          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                          Originally posted by Matt10
                          No issues with the patch update in regards to the set. I've still kept the Sprint at 48 and FB at 1, which is being considered for the next update. The shape is still there, and the defensive line remains active.



                          I've been testing on Pro and WC as well. So far so good when adding a 2pt acceleration discrepancy 50/52. Think the pass and shot error for both can go down too. After that, it's still in good shape, and am happy with where things stand. I'll try to record or possibly stream if I can get things situated at home.
                          Nice those are encouraging signs. At the very least they've seemed to figure out how to update the game without breaking it. I hope world class becomes viable again I'd like to try playing home on world class and away on legendary this year.

                          Hope the family is feeling better.

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                          • TopSide83
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1400

                            #1423
                            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                            FB at 1 is great so far but I’m not liking sprint at 48. Seems like it’s affecting the cpu defense

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                            • LFC6TIMES
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2019
                              • 12

                              #1424
                              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                              i really hope EA address the referees giving cards for every foul its like you cant even challenge because you know youll get carded not every challenge has to be a card really hope they fix this

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                              • Matt10
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 16621

                                #1425
                                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                                Originally posted by TopSide83
                                FB at 1 is great so far but I’m not liking sprint at 48. Seems like it’s affecting the cpu defense
                                Can you be more specific on how it may be affecting the CPU defense?
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