FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

[Matt10]

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Matt, so what changes need to be made to Version 5 in Legendary?

If you want to test, I'm using Sprint 15/20, Width 50/50 - that's it.

2nd half of that match btw:

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[Flobot84]

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If you want to test, I'm using Sprint 15/20, Width 50/50 - that's it.

Matt, does this change apply to WC difficulty as well?

I'm currently getting used to the width at the extreme of 95 following your update last night. It certainly stops the wings from being overpowered.

Hesitant to go back to 50 here with no other changes.

[rasotom6]

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Matt,

I'm on PS5, Professional, Slow, 8-10 min halves, Semi Shooting and Through Balls, all assists turned off minus pass block assistance.

I have my Career Mode in the Championship that I'll be playing today. What can I provide as tests for you in my matches with footage? I'll be glad to help.

Additionally, I managed to get 2 matches in over my busy weekend on V5 minus the 95 width, I haven't seen crazy issues as explained above, minus the occasional CB shuffling issue which is even more common on Slow, so I expected it.

[Thunder14035]

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If you want to test, I'm using Sprint 15/20, Width 50/50 - that's it.

2nd half of that match btw:

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I'm sorry if you already answered this question, I'm a little out of time. Slow or normal speed?

[SenseiTJ2]

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Really enjoying the new width / marking - every game feels different!

I'm using 10/10 sprint as I feel it's the best pace

My question, does the high width cause players to fatigue early? My team tends to be 80% exhausted by 60th minute... I've tried a few kick off games to replicate this...

Playing on slow, professional, 10 min halves

[Matt10]

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Matt, does this change apply to WC difficulty as well?

I'm currently getting used to the width at the extreme of 95 following your update last night. It certainly stops the wings from being overpowered.

Hesitant to go back to 50 here with no other changes.

I'm approaching it more so that it qualifies as another tactical value, basically trying to defer to the team tactics/instructions than forcing it away from the gameplan - this is the same concept using RF 50.

I think WC has its own issues in 1v1 compared to Legendary. Legendary has better resistance, but WC has a weird random move forward then back sometimes, but that's another reason the sprint discrepancy works for the most part. I've tried 50/51 acc or 49/50 and that makes for a bit more resistance. I know there was a time where we used 50/52 or even 48/50. Plenty of options.

Matt,

I'm on PS5, Professional, Slow, 8-10 min halves, Semi Shooting and Through Balls, all assists turned off minus pass block assistance.

I have my Career Mode in the Championship that I'll be playing today. What can I provide as tests for you in my matches with footage? I'll be glad to help.

Additionally, I managed to get 2 matches in over my busy weekend on V5 minus the 95 width, I haven't seen crazy issues as explained above, minus the occasional CB shuffling issue which is even more common on Slow, so I expected it.

Just the width at 50 should be fine. Test fast build up when you can. Appreciate it.

I'm sorry if you already answered this question, I'm a little out of time. Slow or normal speed?

No worries - Slow speed

Really enjoying the new width / marking - every game feels different!

I'm using 10/10 sprint as I feel it's the best pace

My question, does the high width cause players to fatigue early? My team tends to be 80% exhausted by 60th minute... I've tried a few kick off games to replicate this...

Playing on slow, professional, 10 min halves

Sprint 10/10 for pace is always good, it's just a matter of getting the CPU to be more competitive in 1v1 situations. But yeah, the width definitely helps. Can you try 50?

[YNWA_MATTY_UTM]

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This is not slider related but I've found on ps4 atleast that If you change "Difficulty Mode" it also changes your controls in "Customise Controls" section by default. Just something to look out for when testing these sliders and gameplay in general which by the way is a massive improvement from the default sliders thanks to mainly matt for he's constant tweaking and perfectly explanations of changes and not forgetting others who have contributed to this thread. 👍

[saints0221]

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Matt, first game on 50 width tonight was crazy, 5-3 vs Palace. I think it was a fluke though, not related to that change. Both teams were a bit tired and played some lesser players, and it was just a strange one. Honestly didn’t notice much different categories 55 width at all. Will keep testing.

[adoptedscouse]

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Managed to get a few hours in tonight to try out V5, with width at 95 & marking at 65 as per Matts post a few pages back.

@matt10 these clips I recorded are all on Series X, World Class, V5 as above & Slow Speed. Also controller settings are semi assisted.

https://youtu.be/0_d7hSwxFBI this one is where Mane wanders into box & defender doesn’t engage at all.

https://youtu.be/OtI1vDmAmh0 one defender is completely oblivious to the danger, yet others are trying to get back.

https://youtu.be/6vK9tM5rGH4 this video show’s Watford defender lose Firmino but as you can see they realised & re-engage again.

The above videos are all from the same match as I played this weekends fixture. I then went on to play Everton vs West Ham & only had one glaring issue with the defenders, otherwise it was a very close game.

https://youtu.be/BzyGufWXWhk

I then went on to play next weeks game of Liverpool vs Man Utd & there was nothing that showed up that made me think the defenders are not tracking or engaging at all.

Overall V5 is very good & it has made slow an option again which I like, so thanks.


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[JulianP]

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Managed to get a few hours in tonight to try out V5, with width at 95 & marking at 65 as per Matts post a few pages back.

@matt10 these clips I recorded are all on Series X, World Class, V5 as above & Slow Speed. Also controller settings are semi assisted.

https://youtu.be/0_d7hSwxFBI this one is where Mane wanders into box & defender doesn’t engage at all.

https://youtu.be/OtI1vDmAmh0 one defender is completely oblivious to the danger, yet others are trying to get back.

https://youtu.be/6vK9tM5rGH4 this video show’s Watford defender lose Firmino but as you can see they realised & re-engage again.

The above videos are all from the same match as I played this weekends fixture. I then went on to play Everton vs West Ham & only had one glaring issue with the defenders, otherwise it was a very close game.

https://youtu.be/BzyGufWXWhk

I then went on to play next weeks game of Liverpool vs Man Utd & there was nothing that showed up that made me think the defenders are not tracking or engaging at all.

Overall V5 is very good & it has made slow an option again which I like, so thanks.


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So you recommend playing V5 but with what modifications? And with what speed?

I play in Legendary

[adoptedscouse]

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So you recommend playing V5 but with what modifications? And with what speed?



I play in Legendary

I played V5 with 95/95 width & 65/65 marking on slow game speed. However I’ve seen from a recent post by Matt he’s working on Legendary sliders now, I only play on World Class.

[rasotom6]

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Okay, I do believe the Fast Build Up tactic causes a big difference in the AI behavior. I have Width at 55 on Professional, 8 min, PS5, Slow game speed. Playing my 2nd friendly in Career Mode with my Created Club vs. Cercle Brugge.

I switched to Fast Build Up about 20 minutes into the game and things went berserk. End to end non-stop football and it just got annoying and repetitive to counter attack after they counter attacked.

I also lowered Pass Speed to 30 as 40 for the user felt a bit too fast and unrealistic for me. Once I lowered it, it didn’t feel so “easy” to get past the CPU defense.

https://youtu.be/KNkKbHuQUS8

My CB shuffling back, managed to switch to him and move my other CB into position.

https://youtu.be/nxfvCBTcNgI

This may or not be a good video to example with but that is after I switched to Fast Build Up. Massive gap in the midfield I could easily just walk past the CPU midfield with my CM before I did God knows what with it.

https://youtu.be/rHdz_WoJGDQ

Same counter attack scenario on Fast Build Up. I’m literally walking with my CM before playing a pass to my RB who is just streaming up the pitch with my other CM, and my other LB almost in a 2-4-4 formation in attack. Then they counter attack and I’m not sure if the CB is shuffling, or trying to decide whether to close down the ball carrier or intercept the other forward in the area. I didn’t control him on purpose to see what the AI would do defensively.


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[Matt10]

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Okay, I do believe the Fast Build Up tactic causes a big difference in the AI behavior. I have Width at 55 on Professional, 8 min, PS5, Slow game speed. Playing my 2nd friendly in Career Mode with my Created Club vs. Cercle Brugge.

I switched to Fast Build Up about 20 minutes into the game and things went berserk. End to end non-stop football and it just got annoying and repetitive to counter attack after they counter attacked.

I also lowered Pass Speed to 30 as 40 for the user felt a bit too fast and unrealistic for me. Once I lowered it, it didn’t feel so “easy” to get past the CPU defense.

https://youtu.be/KNkKbHuQUS8

My CB shuffling back, managed to switch to him and move my other CB into position.

https://youtu.be/nxfvCBTcNgI

This may or not be a good video to example with but that is after I switched to Fast Build Up. Massive gap in the midfield I could easily just walk past the CPU midfield with my CM before I did God knows what with it.

https://youtu.be/rHdz_WoJGDQ

Same counter attack scenario on Fast Build Up. I’m literally walking with my CM before playing a pass to my RB who is just streaming up the pitch with my other CM, and my other LB almost in a 2-4-4 formation in attack. Then they counter attack and I’m not sure if the CB is shuffling, or trying to decide whether to close down the ball carrier or intercept the other forward in the area. I didn’t control him on purpose to see what the AI would do defensively.


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Thanks for the test, and videos. Basically confirms what was found yesterday. That fast build up can hurt the experience. However, it's doing what it should do. Just one of those things where the tactics actually work this year and the instructions follow suit.

So what's the current width recommendation on V5, 50?

Stick to 55 for now. The legendary will probably just be Sprint 15/20. Still testing some things of course.

[Matt10]

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Changelog & Updates:
Timestamp: 10/18/2021 | 10:05 PM CST --- The 95 width + marking 65 really didn't make that big of a difference in the end, at least not in fighting the CB jockey. We could go down quite the rabbit hole in trying to fix something that won't go away until another patch update.

In the meantime, Version 5 is still the one to use. There is consideration of a discrepancy in Legend, such as Sprint 15/20, but that's about it. Feel free to try it out.

[rasotom6]

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Thanks for the test, and videos. Basically confirms what was found yesterday. That fast build up can hurt the experience. However, it's doing what it should do. Just one of those things where the tactics actually work this year and the instructions follow suit.







Stick to 55 for now. The legendary will probably just be Sprint 15/20. Still testing some things of course.

No problem. I recorded a few minutes of gameplay in my 1st league match against QPR. This is my idea of balanced, solid gameplay. I used some quick tactics also and changed mentality as well.

https://youtu.be/2Es5YkzRGBI

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