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  • Altimus
    Chelsea, Assemble!
    • Nov 2004
    • 27283

    #61
    Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

    Eh, I just can't put this game down. I went ahead and played a game with the custom tactics (Real Madrid - AJAX) and I must say it felt great. I ended up winning 4-0 but that's not why the game was great. It just felt and played like you'd expect this matchup to play.

    A couple questions though if anyone knows. I set all 4 tactic slots as the recommended set on the spreadsheet. Would this mean the AI will never changed tactics based on situation at hand? So if they're up 1 and toward the end they won't change to a more defensive style?

    Do edits apply to current ML modes in progress? If not that wouldn't be good as if Konami applied a drastic patch it could mess up ML not being able to adjust these tactics.

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    • Bahnzo
      Can't spell antetokounmpo
      • Jun 2003
      • 2809

      #62
      Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

      Originally posted by Altimus
      A couple questions though if anyone knows. I set all 4 tactic slots as the recommended set on the spreadsheet. Would this mean the AI will never changed tactics based on situation at hand? So if they're up 1 and toward the end they won't change to a more defensive style?
      Here's what I suspect and have read from other's that seem to agree....

      The CPU only uses the first Tactics spot as the default. It will use this tactic to start each game with, but will then make adjustments during the game as needed. The other 3 tactic slots for the CPU are wasted and not used.

      So, don't bother setting the other slots, they don't mean spit. Setting the first slot works, but the CPU will make changes when needed.

      What I don't understand...wasn't last year's game implimented with a system that had certain conditions (ie: 45mins, and behind, etc) under which each team played? Did this not work for the CPU/AI or what? Seems to me taking that out was a huge mistake.
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      • spit_bubble
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 3292

        #63
        Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings



        All right, I don't know what the heck to think now. Just played a game with "Formation Change" assist turned on, and the AI kept on switching my tactic to slot #3 for me after I went up 1-0. I was playing as Sevilla and they have a preset for slots 1 and 2, with 3 and 4 set to "Standard".

        So, it's pretty clear the AI will switch tactics. Whether or not it stays confined to the 4 tactic slots within the game plan is another matter. I'm inclined to think that it does, just because that would make the most sense.

        I also think there are other factors at play here, like individual player abilities, offensive/defensive level, and opposing team tactics, which may make it seem like a different tactic is being used.

        Well, I'm going to proceed as if the AI uses the four tactic slots, and set those up accordingly. Like I say, just makes the most sense.
        All ties severed...

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        • Altimus
          Chelsea, Assemble!
          • Nov 2004
          • 27283

          #64
          What level is everyone playing on by the way? Sometimes on Top Player some questionable things happen. Problem with professional for me it's that it's a goal fest.

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          • spit_bubble
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 3292

            #65
            Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

            ^ Been playing on Pro, but I'm starting to find it a touch on the easy side.
            All ties severed...

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            • Altimus
              Chelsea, Assemble!
              • Nov 2004
              • 27283

              #66
              Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

              Been playing the game on the Pitch Side. The gameplay actually seems slower compared to the other camera views.

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              • KG
                Welcome Back
                • Sep 2005
                • 17583

                #67
                Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                Originally posted by Altimus
                Been playing the game on the Pitch Side. The gameplay actually seems slower compared to the other camera views.
                Yeah I switched up too. It takes a while to get used to but the graphics look fantastic on it.
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                • aloncho11
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3708

                  #68
                  Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                  switched to that camera today, looks very similar to Fifa 12's default broadcast cam...the game looks sweet from that angle
                  Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                  • jesmith29
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1659

                    #69
                    Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                    On PES Stats Database, team tactics, does anyone know what the arrows mean?

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                    • Fiddy
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12682

                      #70
                      Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                      so how does this game react to tactic changes compared to Fifa?
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                      • gomito#10
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 27

                        #71
                        Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                        Originally posted by Fiddy
                        so how does this game react to tactic changes compared to Fifa?
                        fifa doesnt... so not sure there is a comparison

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                        • rckabillyRaider
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 4382

                          #72
                          Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                          Originally posted by Altimus
                          Been playing the game on the Pitch Side. The gameplay actually seems slower compared to the other camera views.
                          I noticed that too. I got used to FIFA's tele camera and this seems to be the closest to it.

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                          • Krebstar
                            is looking at stats.
                            • May 2005
                            • 12904

                            #73
                            Originally posted by gomito#10
                            fifa doesnt... so not sure there is a comparison
                            Whoa, I disagree. It's not perfect, but you can do some things if you put in the time and especially if you mess with formations. See the link in my signature.

                            As for PES, my experience this year was no matter what the AI would try and break on you and only had eyes for the goal.

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                            • fearwhatnow
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1474

                              #74
                              Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                              Originally posted by Krebstar
                              Whoa, I disagree. It's not perfect, but you can do some things if you put in the time and especially if you mess with formations. See the link in my signature.

                              As for PES, my experience this year was no matter what the AI would try and break on you and only had eyes for the goal.
                              AI will try to score when their behind.That's logical.
                              Do this: Fire up the game and select Man Utd as your team.Then select a very weak team as your opponent.Start the match,let them score the first goal.Now see what it happens.You'll dominate the possession and cpu will try to mass defend.You can even see them in panic when you push up front creating chance after chance.

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                              • ntelos
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 6

                                #75
                                Re: 2012 AI Tactics and Settings

                                sorry guys but i'm tired of searching... i'm looking for a 2012 OF for pes 2009 on xbox 360(unmodded)...if anyone has made one or can tell me where to fnd one i'll apreciated! thank you

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