PES 2017 Tactics

[Krebstar]

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I know you will be awesome at promoting MLS gameplay and doing their teams strategies so i hope my work can give you a good standing to creating their tactics, the main thing is with attacking teams, don't be afraid to push players forward, just retain that balance of transition between defence and attack.

Actually, not a big viewer/advocate of MLS at all...ha.

[papinho81]

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Hey Krebstar,

how are things going? Are you still working on tactics? Have you been discouraged by Klashman posts?
If the answer of the last question is yes, I propose to consider him like a wise master that could teach us (if he wants of course) and not like a Guru that would have the private gift of reading the only possible tactics from the warm and bleeding entrails of PES.

With handfuls of motivated people and feedback we could make tactics for every single team in the 6-8 principal leagues in no time (couple of weeks).
I was planning to do it for the ligue 1 to get more familiar with my home country league, but I have been cooled by Klashman posts.

Let's make things happen! please...

[Krebstar]

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Hey Krebstar,

how are things going? Are you still working on tactics? Have you been discouraged by Klashman posts?
If the answer of the last question is yes, I propose to consider him like a wise master that could teach us (if he wants of course) and not like a Guru that would have the private gift of reading the only possible tactics from the warm and bleeding entrails of PES.

With handfuls of motivated people and feedback we could make tactics for every single team in the 6-8 principal leagues in no time (couple of weeks).
I was planning to do it for the ligue 1 to get more familiar with my home country league, but I have been cooled by Klashman posts.

Let's make things happen! please...

I'm still going to continue—just have been very busy with work. For now, I'm going to continue to build them out the same that I had been before, as I do not want to restart at this point, and would like to start a ML at some point this year.

This weekend the spreadsheet will start to get more filled out, if not in the next few days.

[FraserOliver17]

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How dare you have a life and job and responsibilities! Finish this so I can play! God, some people eh?

[papinho81]

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How dare you have a life and job and responsibilities! Finish this so I can play! God, some people eh?

Sorry but I was not trying to push him to do the work for us. If you actually red my message I am willing to help with this. As the opener of the thread, Krebstar is a bit the moderator of it. It has been very quite lately (not only him) and I was afraid that Klashman intervention had an earthquake impact on the foundation of this thread.

The idea of my message was also to try motivating others people to do this work together by assigning each one to a particular league or part of a league and increase our efficiency.

People that doesn't want to make tactics can still contribute by testing them and providing feedbacks.

I propose myself to do the Ligue 1. It should take me 2-3 weeks to do it because I do also have a job and a life.
It is pretty much time left before we get very complete OF and would be great to have tactics near to be set by that time.

I am reassured by the fact Krebstar didn't throw the project in the trash. The question of course is whether you (Krebstar) want us to help you with it?

[RoyceDa59]

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Sorry but I was not trying to push him to do the work for us. If you actually red my message I am willing to help with this. As the opener of the thread, Krebstar is a bit the moderator of it. It has been very quite lately (not only him) and I was afraid that Klashman intervention had an earthquake impact on the foundation of this thread.

The idea of my message was also to try motivating others people to do this work together by assigning each one to a particular league or part of a league and increase our efficiency.

People that doesn't want to make tactics can still contribute by testing them and providing feedbacks.

I propose myself to do the Ligue 1. It should take me 2-3 weeks to do it because I do also have a job and a life.
It is pretty much time left before we get very complete OF and would be great to have tactics near to be set by that time.

I am reassured by the fact Krebstar didn't throw the project in the trash. The question of course is whether you (Krebstar) want us to help you with it?

It has been quiet but it is because most people here are playing Fifa, I haven't bought it myself yet because I am still enjoying PES.

Otherwise that, I am still doing tactics as well but my edit file got corrupted so it kind of put me behind. It is a good thing a exported most of the teams I worked on so it wasn't a complete loss. I am in the process of re-downloading a new option file which is cool because I have no fake Euro teams now and working on adding J-League and the rest of the South American teams. I say all that to say that I plan on filling out mostly Bundesliga, Serie A and a few Dutch teams tactics.

[dmendenhall_9]

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Hi, i saw this video and the other ones you made, there is issues here with the positioning of your formations, how the positions transition on fluid formation must work in harmony with the tactical sliders you have set.

For example teams who high press need to have their positioning set to high up the pitch so they retain suitable positions to manifest the high press. If you move all the players back like many of you here seem to be doing its counter productive, actually makes the game easier and a bit of a mess like in the Benfica v Sporting match on your channel.

I'll try to get to 5 posts so i can post my premier league which TTB is using in his master league with leicester. I saw your premier league tactics and i basically disagreed with literally all of them lol sorry but the game has had a similar tatcis system since 2015 and i've learned over the last 2 games how important it is to set teams up holistically.

Post away then. I went to your website but your download doesn't give .bin files so it didnt work and I am too lazy to put them all in manually. ha

[tc020791]

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Post away then. I went to your website but your download doesn't give .bin files so it didnt work and I am too lazy to put them all in manually. ha

Did you have to unzip the file to view the tactics? I wasn't able to see anything. I don't mind putting them in manually personally.


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[papinho81]

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Did you have to unzip the file to view the tactics? I wasn't able to see anything. I don't mind putting them in manually personally.


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I think his .bin files are for PC only so far, but you can download the videos with premier league tactics by clicking the Premier league logo here:

http://klashman69.blogspot.ch/2016/09/pes-2017-premier-league-tactics-videos.html

[dmendenhall_9]

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I think his .bin files are for PC only so far, but you can download the videos with premier league tactics by clicking the Premier league logo here:
http://klashman69.blogspot.ch/2016/0...cs-videos.html

Well someone who does all the changes should just upload their .bin files, ha.

p.s. I checked his tactics and we are very similar (almost identical) in how we set up teams. The major difference is how much he moves the team's positioning in fluid formations. I was keeping mine like Matt10 set it up to make sure there was less space (and in my testing I didn't find moving players around on the pitch affected much) but I am willing to give the different setup a shot to see how it plays.

[RoyceDa59]

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I am not a fan of moving RB to the SMF position that is just my personal preference. For the Arsenal formation Bellerin and Monreal already play exactly how they would in real life without trying to change their position due to their stats and assigned skills.I personally feel like Arsenal do not need any other Advanced Tactic besides Tiki-Taka. I think for tactics you really have to keep in mind of the players stats for when you are implementing tactics.

[dmendenhall_9]

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I am not a fan of moving RB to the SMF position that is just my personal preference. For the Arsenal formation Bellerin and Monreal already play exactly how they would in real life without trying to change their position due to their stats and assigned skills.I personally feel like Arsenal do not need any other Advanced Tactic besides Tiki-Taka. I think for tactics you really have to keep in mind of the players stats for when you are implementing tactics.

Yeah, I was testing the tactics out. First thing I did was change Bellerin from CMF to RMF. Made no sense. He was chilling in the middle of the field but just check out any of his heat maps, he stays right on the sideline. Overall I like it though but always got to change a few things to make it the way you want it.

[papinho81]

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Yeah, I was testing the tactics out. First thing I did was change Bellerin from CMF to RMF. Made no sense. He was chilling in the middle of the field but just check out any of his heat maps, he stays right on the sideline. Overall I like it though but always got to change a few things to make it the way you want it.

Guys do not use the TTB tactic they have some important difference with Klashman actual tactics that do not make sense. The CMF role for Bellerin and the cdm role for cazorla instead of Coquelin are striking examples that clearly shown that the guy from TTB did not pay attention to details.

Use the link I posted above to download Klashman videos with tactics. The quality is average (cell phone?) but the positioning and instructions are better balanced than the one from TTB. Could not make mind yet if I prefer individually those (Klashman) or Krebstar one. More testing needed

[Krebstar]

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Update!
Tactics Spreadsheet
PES 2017 AI/CPU Tactics

Ligue 1 is getting there! As with the rest of the major leagues I've placed in generic tactics—added a few more to the list to be created such as a 3-5-1-1! Hopefully this weekend will be able to build out a few of these newly added generic tactics which will start to fill things out a bit more.

[wooo_hoooo07]

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just out of curiosity, how to apply these tactics? i see some teams with the same formations. can we save those in a slot and load up for another team? or do we have to adjust the formations 1 by 1?