***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Arteta done for the season with ankle ligament damage.

[Krebstar]

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Which means Ramsey is starting, without question.

Hopefully the kid settles down and instead of trying to do too much, just relaxes.

I think it's massively important to remember just how young this kid is and that he didn't play football for an entire year in a prime development time.

[ZM Punk]

Which means Ramsey is starting, without question.

Hopefully the kid settles down and instead of trying to do too much, just relaxes.

I think it's massively important to remember just how young this kid is and that he didn't play football for an entire year in a prime development time.

We need results right now and he isn't getting it done. That is all I care about right now. Have no idea why Ox isn't starting.

I swear we can't make anything easy.

[Krebstar]

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We need results right now and he isn't getting it done. That is all I care about right now. Have no idea why Ox isn't starting.

I swear we can't make anything easy.

If I could pick right now between the two, I'd pick Ox. Easily.

However, I just don't see it happening. But I hope it does.

[jt45]

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I would play Ox in a CM mid role like we did against Milan rather than throw Ramsey out there. He's been awful the last month.

[ZM Punk]

I would play Ox in a CM mid role like we did against Milan rather than throw Ramsey out there. He's been awful the last month.

He has been awful the entire season.

[Krebstar]

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He has been awful the entire season.

I disagree. I think it's hard to remember, as he's been awful recently, but at the start of the season he was playing rather well. Definitely above the level he's at now.

By start of the season I certainly don't mean the first three months, but the first few months at least he was a bit of a bright spot. Then he stumbled and fell and luckily Tomas has found form again.

[ZM Punk]

I disagree. I think it's hard to remember, as he's been awful recently, but at the start of the season he was playing rather well. Definitely above the level he's at now.

By start of the season I certainly don't mean the first three months, but the first few months at least he was a bit of a bright spot. Then he stumbled and fell and luckily Tomas has found form again.

He was playing well compared to the rest of the team I agree but that's not hard to do when your sharing a midfield with Conquelin and Frimpong. I think that made him look a lot better.

I don't think there has been a game this year where I have said man Ramsey has been good today. But I can think of many where I have said the complete opposite.

I'm not ready to give up on Ramsey yet. Like you said he is still young and coming off a terrible injury. But with 3rd or 4th place back up for grabs I think you have to play your best 11 which currently doesn't involve Ramsey (not that you were implying that).

[BigDaddyGin]

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Although I agree with a lot of what has been said, I really think that Wenger has no choice but to play Ramsey, especially with Benayoun unable to play. Although Ox absolutely has the bigger upside he is an 18 year old kid who's played in what, 15 matches? I just don't think he's the man to take on the midfield responsibility. Not yet.

[ZM Punk]

Although I agree with a lot of what has been said, I really think that Wenger has no choice but to play Ramsey, especially with Benayoun unable to play. Although Ox absolutely has the bigger upside he is an 18 year old kid who's played in what, 15 matches? I just don't think he's the man to take on the midfield responsibility. Not yet.

He's looked good every time he has been called upon. Ramsey hasn't looked like he is ready for that responsibility either. He was overwhelmed against Wigan I dont see that changing against an in form Chelsea side.

At least Ox gives you that possibility of something special and may have a goal in him. I think the most shocking aspect of Ramsey's play this season has been his finishes. The man has had some SHOCKING misses.

[BigDaddyGin]

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He's looked good every time he has been called upon. Ramsey hasn't looked like he is ready for that responsibility either. He was overwhelmed against Wigan I dont see that changing against an in form Chelsea side.

At least Ox gives you that possibility of something special and may have a goal in him. I think the most shocking aspect of Ramsey's play this season has been his finishes. The man has had some SHOCKING misses.

I definitely can see your point of view, and it is absolutely valid. On another note, I cannot wait for this match to start, everything is on the line here and I have full faith and confidence that the Gunners will get the result. RVP scores two and we win the match 3-1.

[Krebstar]

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Yikes, I hope so. I definitely think if we win, it'll be on the back of RVP. I'm also really pumped for the morning to arrive. Hopefully we can at least grab a point.

[orion523]

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Ox and Ramsey in the starting XI! Come on you Gunners!

[Krebstar]

Ramsey looks horrible so far. The kid busts his *** out there, but it's not working as of now.

[orion523]

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Ramsey looks horrible so far. The kid busts his *** out there, but it's not working as of now.

Well the club improved as the match went on, especially Ramsey who looked terrible at the outset. Once he was set free to go on the attack he became another player, definitely encouraging. That said, the draw makes the final three matches must wins. Any slip ups and I fear dire consequences, like the loss of RVP, who IMO will leave the club if they finish out of the top four.