***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

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Looking like a possible 4-2-3-1 with Lacazette at 10.

Or a 4-3-3 with Saka at CM.


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[Krebstar]

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Looking like a possible 4-2-3-1 with Lacazette at 10.

Or a 4-3-3 with Saka at CM.

Lacazette playing deep sounds great to me—only worry is that he's prone to picking up early fouls/cards when he's really psyched up.

I'm not expecting much going into this, and that's based on our form, Spurs' form, and our complete inabilty to get anything going in the league while we try new things each week.

I want to be surprised.

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I want to be surprised.

Yeah, I’m not.

[JHedges2]

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I would’ve been fine with a 1-0 scoreline.

But losing Partey AND 2-0 down.

Sigh.


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It’s not the score line, it’s the complete naivety of how we set up and played.

It’s inexcusable and embarrassing.

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***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

Arsenal...

- Signed Willian to a three-year deal
- Convinced Xhaka to stay in January
- Signed Pepe for £72m
- Signed Saliba for £27m with no plan for usage
- Offered Mustafi a new contract this year
- Re-signed Luiz for another year

I know I’m missing some, but what a stupid ****ing club. From ownership to Edu and some onto Arteta, the decisions that have been made are legendarily comical.

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Why doesn’t AMN start? Why doesn’t Nelson start? Why does Saliba not get a chance to prove himself as an incredibly athletic defender on the right instead of Holding?

I know Saliba isn’t registered (or doesn’t have to be whatever) and I love Rob, but come on.

I don’t think this is going to get better.

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Arteta: “"In terms of the performance they did everything that I asked them to do. Absolutely everything. We played the way I believe we had to play this game."

**** this.

[Suntan Superman]

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AMN should start. Saw on twitter someone said he's a better midfielder than Xhaka, and a better right back than Bellerin, and tbf, I agree with both of those. Dude is also an absolute workhorse that doesn't give up. No reason to not start him.


The weird part about Nelson not starting is that he's generally a decent crosser, if that's what Arteta insists y'all do, it's wild that he doesn't get more time on the field.


Saliba not playing is wild to me. You invested in him, and things aren't really working as it is, why not give him a shot? Especially since, if it were me making choices, I'd be wanting Gabriel/Saliba to be the centre-back pairing of the future, get them acquainted and in a full year of playing together, they should be excellent defenders together.


It's not getting better, but the real question is, how much more time will Arteta get than Emery? As someone that truly felt 'targeted' by the club, how long does he get to say that he doesn't have the players he needs or that he needs time to train them properly?

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AMN should start. Saw on twitter someone said he's a better midfielder than Xhaka, and a better right back than Bellerin, and tbf, I agree with both of those. Dude is also an absolute workhorse that doesn't give up. No reason to not start him.

I also agree. There's no reason he shouldn't be getting time in the center or on the right. I know it was only Rapid Vienna
, but he was great on Thursday in the center. He moves very well with the ball and always looks to move forward when given an opportunity—we need that desperately.

The weird part about Nelson not starting is that he's generally a decent crosser, if that's what Arteta insists y'all do, it's wild that he doesn't get more time on the field.

There was rumblings that he refused to go on loan, or would not agree to a loan deal and I don't blame him because he should get time playing and if not the club needs to move him on. I'd prefer that he plays, obviously. Give me him over Willian every day right now. Every single day.

Saliba not playing is wild to me. You invested in him, and things aren't really working as it is, why not give him a shot? Especially since, if it were me making choices, I'd be wanting Gabriel/Saliba to be the centre-back pairing of the future, get them acquainted and in a full year of playing together, they should be excellent defenders together.

I understand bringing him in slowly, but we've hit the insane point, and he's set to leave on loan in January back to France.

It's not getting better, but the real question is, how much more time will Arteta get than Emery? As someone that truly felt 'targeted' by the club, how long does he get to say that he doesn't have the players he needs or that he needs time to train them properly?

Unless we're in a serious relegation battle I'm sure he gets through the entire season. However, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have very little faith right now that he'll turn it around. Why? Mostly because he doesn't have the track record to show that he can.

He's very much caught up in the larger issue of the club right now which is they're attempting to plan for the future and present at the same time, and it just can't happen. We can't bring in young players for the future but not utilize them because we're so focused on a fourth-place impossible finish by using some overpaid veterans. If we're going to rebuild for the future, we need to commit to it and soon.

I think Arteta could be the right choice for a group of young players that he molds into something, but we're not even trying to do that. Instead, he's trying to manage a poorly assembled squad like they're Man City.

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***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

This summer you SHOULD be able to get rid of a ton of dead weight. And you should do it even if you have to sell for cheaper than you’d like. The big problem with a rebuild in the upcoming windows is that you’re just not a great destination for a top player right now. So to get them you’re overpaying transfer and wages. Also need a cohesive recruitment strategy from the top down that works with how the manager wants to play. So you probably also need to rebuild a lot of the club’s structure before you even start on the project if you want it to be successful right away.

Arsenal are honestly a really big mess right now and might be looking at a few years stretch of finishing between 5th and 10th and it might be hard to break out of that with the way things are set up at the moment. Not to mention many of the clubs at the top are in much better shape.

The biggest thing you can hope for is winning the Europa League to get CL next year so that you will be able to sign a couple better players right away over the summer. That is what Klopp tried in his first half season, and some of the teams he was fielding in the league when there were EL matches were hilarious. Need to put together some league wins in order to be in a position to attempt that, though.

Arteta seems pretty far down the list of problems tbh. A lot of these players have been underperforming under multiple managers.

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This summer you SHOULD be able to get rid of a ton of dead weight.

Ozil, Sokratis, Mustafi, and Luiz should all be off the books, so yes that does help.

Arteta seems pretty far down the list of problems tbh. A lot of these players have been underperforming under multiple managers.

They have, which is why it's insane that he's still trusting them. That's one of my biggest issues—his inclusion of players such as Xhaka, him wanting Mustafi to sign a new contract, and his use of Willian despite his terrible performances.

As for Klopp, that's a manager who won back-to-back Bundesliga titles and took his team to the Champions League final. Yes, he inherited a mess, but he brought with him a coaching staff and system that he was ready to implement.

[Suntan Superman]

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On the record, I think Mustafi re-signing was just a bid to try and not lose him for free, which I at least understand as it's something I do on Football Manager all the time.

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On the record, I think Mustafi re-signing was just a bid to try and not lose him for free, which I at least understand as it's something I do on Football Manager all the time.

I'd like to believe that, but this is Arsenal we're talking about.

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Martinelli is set to play with the U21 team—which is great news. While he alone can not fix our issues I do hope that once he's fit he's given a run in the team, as we have no other forward like him in the squad.