Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

[VTPack919]

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Yedlin's not ready to start in a World Cup. He'd get absolutely destroyed going up against the left wingers in our group. I'd be shocked if he even made the squad, to me he's another 2018 project.

The LW(Reus and Ronaldo especially) in our group are so pacey. Who ever we stick over needs to have it in bundles. That is my main reason for wanting Yedlin in that spot. Who ever we stick over there will get roasted, no doubt.

[Bruins]

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The LW(Reus and Ronaldo especially) in our group are so pacey. Who ever we stick over needs to have it in bundles. That is my main reason for wanting Yedlin in that spot. Who ever we stick over there will get roasted, no doubt.

Yedlin has pace, sure, but he's not a very good defender. He'd get abused all game long, it'd be embarrassing.

[Matt10]

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A lot defending is recovery speed. He's been at RB the entire time. Who else could be there other than Parkhurst? Yedlin puts in good balls, sprints back and forth and barely every looks zapped. He can keep pace and is more physical than I like Castillo.

Yedlin for the WC in my book - maybe even the start if Cameron has to play CB in place of undeperforming Gonzalez..

[VTPack919]

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A lot defending is recovery speed. He's been at RB the entire time. Who else could be there other than Parkhurst? Yedlin puts in good balls, sprints back and forth and barely every looks zapped. He can keep pace and is more physical than I like Castillo.

Yedlin for the WC in my book - maybe even the start if Cameron has to play CB in place of undeperforming Gonzalez..

Exactly, I understand that he is not the best defender and that he is young. He will be able to keep up at the very least.


It's not like we have anyone who can bottle up either of those 2. It's going to be pretty "embarrassing" for whoever we trot out. I would gladly start Yedlin if it meant Cameron could take up that CDM role.

[studbucket]

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I think that saying Yedlin is not a very good defender is a bit off. He's much, much better than he was just 12 months ago, and I don't see how he's that much worse than what we've seen from Evans, Beasley, or Beltran. In some ways, he strikes me as better because of the recovery speed.

I know it's just another opinion, but Ives Galarcep thinks Yedlin is a solid defender. He also says that he doesn't think he'll make the WC 23, but I disagree with your assessment of his defending.

[VTPack919]

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I think that saying Yedlin is not a very good defender is a bit off. He's much, much better than he was just 12 months ago, and I don't see how he's that much worse than what we've seen from Evans, Beasley, or Beltran. In some ways, he strikes me as better because of the recovery speed.

I know it's just another opinion, but Ives Galarcep thinks Yedlin is a solid defender. He also says that he doesn't think he'll make the WC 23, but I disagree with your assessment of his defending.

This can't be stated enough. We compare Yedlin to others like we are seeing good defense out of them. Fullback is a very weak position for us.

[Bruins]

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There's two types of speed: speed of play and speed of thought. Yedlin's got the former, definitely. The latter? I haven't really seen it. I think the kid's overhyped, for his current level of play.

Remember the South Korea game? He looked totally outmatched. Against South freakin Korea. If he couldn't handle them, I have no confidence in him going up against the likes of Ronaldo and Reus. He's just not ready yet.

[VTPack919]

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There's two types of speed: speed of play and speed of thought. Yedlin's got the former, definitely. The latter? I haven't really seen it. I think the kid's overhyped, for his current level of play.

Remember the South Korea game? He looked totally outmatched. Against South freakin Korea. If he couldn't handle them, I have no confidence in him going up against the likes of Ronaldo and Reus. He's just not ready yet.

If we wrote players off after one game, then we'd have to write every off one of our guys.


I get what you are saying about Yedlin, but let's not act like he is much worse than our current crop of fullbacks at this point in time.


I think it is clear Cameron is our best option at RB, but I really want to see him at CDM.

[Bruins]

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I get what you are saying about Yedlin, but let's not act like he is much worse than our current crop of fullbacks at this point in time.

For players who can play right back... Right now I'd take either of Cameron, F. Johnson, Lichaj, Parkhurst, Evans, or Spector over Yedlin. In 2018? I'm sure the scene will be very different.

[VTPack919]

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For players who can play right back... I'd take either of Cameron, F. Johnson, Lichaj, Parkhurst, Evans, or Spector over Yedlin.

Cameron of course, was adding that to my OP before you responded. The rest are a wash besides Johnson. I am assuming Johnson is at LM in a 4-2-3-1 when talking about Yedlin. If I was making a team to go against those blistering LWs I don't play guys like Lichaj, Parkhurst, or Evans over Yedlin. Just the thought of Evans vs Ronaldo makes me shudder. I prefer the natural right back going against CR7 as opposed to a guys like Evans, or the slower Lichaj and Parkhurst.

But then again, I expect most USMNT fans to feel the opposite.

[Bruins]

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Cameron of course, was adding that to my OP before you responded. The rest are a wash besides Johnson. I am assuming Johnson is at LM in a 4-2-3-1 when talking about Yedlin. If I was making a team to go against those blistering LWs I don't play guys like Lichaj, Parkhurst, or Evans over Yedlin. Just the thought of Evans vs Ronaldo makes me shudder. I prefer the natural right back going against CR7 as opposed to a guys like Evans, or the slower Lichaj and Parkhurst.

But then again, I expect most USMNT fans to feel the opposite.

Think of it this way: When you're up against such attacking talent on that side, you don't play a fullback who's only real strength is his own attacking prowess. You need someone who can defend, first and foremost. Also, experience going up against top players. You could argue he has the former, but there's no arguing that he's lacking the latter. We've gotta be pragmatic, we're not going to go out there and boss the game against any of these teams, except maybe Ghana.

I think one guy who doesn't get enough credit is Parkhurst. He's the only defender we have that has made the Champions League Team of the Week, and he almost made it twice. He's also the leader in crossing assists from the fullback position amongst the current pool of defenders.

[VTPack919]

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Think of it this way: When you're up against such attacking talent on that side, you don't play a fullback who's only real strength is his own attacking prowess. You need someone who can defend, first and foremost. Also, experience going up against top players. You could argue he has the former, but there's no arguing that he's lacking the latter. We've gotta be pragmatic, we're not going to go out there and boss the game against any of these teams, except maybe Ghana.

I think one guy who doesn't get enough credit is Parkhurst. He's the only defender we have that has made the Champions League Team of the Week, and he almost made it twice. He's also the leader in crossing assists from the fullback position amongst the current pool of defenders.

So you would rather play a midfielder? (Evans)


Look I get it, but to say Yedlin's only strength is his attacking prowess is false. I think one of the biggest things when going up against Portugal is going to be recovery speed (because let's face it, we are going to get beat by CR7 often) and Yedlin is a much better option than anyone else when it comes to that.


Like I said though, I understand my opinion is not a popular one so I don't expect ringing endorsements of what I am saying... Agreed on Parkhurst.

[studbucket]

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I actually think Yedlin's "attacking prowess" is a bit over-rated, since it's really just speed and aggressiveness at this point. Remick's a better crosser than Yedlin.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd say Yedlin is a better defender than attacker, but his speed makes him stretch defenses.

[ImTellinTim]

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The Jozy to Sunderland move has entered a new level of disaster. He's with the U21 team instead of the senior team today for their match against Spurs.

[fugazi]

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He's either been exposed as a hack...or that place is just a disaster, itself.

I don't see how you can score so much in one league, and not do anything in another...did I expect a decline and learning curve? yes....but this? ridiculous.