The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

[ImTellinTim]

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Always nice when the ref decisions go your way. 2 shots on target - 2 goals.

Ref decisions aside, Southampton only has themselves to blame for their comically bad play in the final third.

This should be fun:

[Brahvocado]

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Always nice when the ref decisions go your way. 2 shots on target - 2 goals.

Ref decisions aside, Southampton only has themselves to blame for their comically bad play in the final third.

This should be fun:

I think they could definitely blame the ref a bit. You can't really say "ref decisions aside", they were all over you guys and should have rightfully earned 2 penalties within the first 10 minutes of the game, not to mention Mignolet handball outside the box. Their play in the final third should have rewarded them with 2-3 goals.

[ImTellinTim]

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I think they could definitely blame the ref a bit. You can't really say "ref decisions aside", they were all over you guys and should have rightfully earned 2 penalties within the first 10 minutes of the game, not to mention Mignolet handball outside the box. Their play in the final third should have rewarded them with 2-3 goals.

One penalty - the first one was never a penalty. And don't forget about the stone cold penalty that they didn't call when Sterling was taken out. Bottom line - Liverpool finished chances, Southampton didn't.

[Brahvocado]

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One penalty - the first one was never a penalty. And don't forget about the stone cold penalty that they didn't call when Sterling was taken out. Bottom line - Liverpool finished chances, Southampton didn't.

I'll accept that the first pen could be debatable. But it's still a penalty and a red for Mignolet. Also, he got the ball before he took Sterling out, watch the replay.

You guys are on incredible form at the moment, I'm not trying to take anything away from that, but you can't boil it down to just "we finished chances and they didn't". You guys hardly touched the ball and your only shots were basically the goals, one of which was a once in a great while screamer, and the other was the result of a comical series of 87 deflections off Southampton defenders, and Sterlings shot itself even took two deflections.

Southampton got absolutely robbed, it's OK to admit that and still talk about what great form you guys are on. Hell I've even said a few times I'd enjoy Liverpool rising back up and becoming our main title challenger in City's place.

In the end, Southampton got robbed, Liverpool got some great luck and 3 points is 3 points. Really, the thing we should take away most from this weekend is that the standard of refereeing in the Premier League has fallen to an absolutely shocking level. Some real accountability needs to be established for these refs, if I perform at a shockingly terrible level in MY job, I'd get fired. Premier League refs on the other hand, get protected when they perform badly. Something needs to be done because it's been spiraling downwards for the last couple years.

I dunno, maybe we should just start a kickstarter to have Sian cloned.

[ImTellinTim]

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You take those kind of wins when they come. I know we've been on the other side of a few of those over the past few years, so it's nice to see one go the other way.

And on the Sterling incident, it doesn't matter if you get the ball when you recklessly take the player's feet out at the same time. It's a foul anywhere else on the pitch, so why not there? Don't like when referees do that.

[VTPack919]

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The first incident was no where close to a pen... Come on now. Calling it debatable means that it could actually go either way, which it couldn't.

It was closer to a pen than anything Diego Costa tries to peddle so maybe that has skewed your judgment a bit?

Sure Soton can feel hard done, but they have no one to blame but themselves for their inability to create and finish anything in the final third. It was abysmal.

[Brahvocado]

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Just because a player goes down easily in the box doesn't mean it's NOT a penalty. Costa's reputation sees him get a lot of non-calls where there was actually a foul, Liverpool fans of all people should know about this.

The first foul IS debatable because there is still contact. Yes he goes down easily but that doesn't mean it's a dive. He's running at full speed and he's much smaller than Can, it wouldn't take too much to trip him.

Anyways, my point was Soton DID technically create enough chances to win the game. They created 2 potential penalty situations as well as forcing Mignolet into a red card error, if Mignolet doesn't block that there's a pretty decent chance it goes in as well.

Not trying to make this a big deal lol, my only point was that you can't just dismiss a team not scoring "not creating anything" when that team is denied clear scoring chances by the ref. Sometimes all you need to win a game is a penalty or two and a red card for the other team. I agree Soton has been poor at putting away chances for the last month or so, and if Pelle doesn't remember how to score goals soon they are going to drop out of the CL race VERY quickly.

[ImTellinTim]

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Yeah, for as well as Pelle was playing early in the season, his form has fallen off a cliff. He had a good chance at a shot on target yesterday and scuffed it horribly with relatively little pressure coming at him.

I think that Duricic guy on loan from Benfica is going to start netting some goals though.

[VTPack919]

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Just because a player goes down easily in the box doesn't mean it's NOT a penalty. Costa's reputation sees him get a lot of non-calls where there was actually a foul, Liverpool fans of all people should know about this.

The first foul IS debatable because there is still contact. Yes he goes down easily but that doesn't mean it's a dive. He's running at full speed and he's much smaller than Can, it wouldn't take too much to trip him.

Anyways, my point was Soton DID technically create enough chances to win the game. They created 2 potential penalty situations as well as forcing Mignolet into a red card error, if Mignolet doesn't block that there's a pretty decent chance it goes in as well.

Not trying to make this a big deal lol, my only point was that you can't just dismiss a team not scoring "not creating anything" when that team is denied clear scoring chances by the ref. Sometimes all you need to win a game is a penalty or two and a red card for the other team. I agree Soton has been poor at putting away chances for the last month or so, and if Pelle doesn't remember how to score goals soon they are going to drop out of the CL race VERY quickly.

Pelle's form has been surprising to me. I thought he would continue scoring goals at a decent clip after the start of the season and given his recent history with Feyenoord.

[Brahvocado]

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Is Duricic A striker though? I thought he was a midfielder.

[Brahvocado]

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Here is what I think based off current form and the way it looks like things are playing out:

Arsenal have officially lifted off, they won't be caught and will finish 3rd. They have a decent chance at catching City, who's major problem will always be complacency.

Liverpool have also hit form, Rodgers actually has a pretty consistent second half of season record, and they will get 4th within a point or two of 3rd.

United have been grinding out results, but they have been largely dependent on other teams dropping points. With Pool and Arsenal on this form, United will drop out of the top 4 very quickly.

Soton is still a very good team, but their second half will depend entirely on Pelle picking up the scoring again.

[ImTellinTim]

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Is Duricic A striker though? I thought he was a midfielder.

Very attacking though. He was getting into dangerous areas constantly.

[C the Lyte]

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I've thoroughly enjoyed watching many Spurs games this year. Young fun team to see week in and out it seems.

[Brahvocado]

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Very attacking though. He was getting into dangerous areas constantly.

Yeah he looked dangerous. The way Southampton play though, they need a good poacher to finish off chances their midfielders can't. Even if Duricic starts coming up with some goals, they still really need Pelle to remember how to score.

[Brahvocado]

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Don't let us all down this weekend Merseyside.