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  • Brahvocado
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    • Oct 2012
    • 7480

    #436
    Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

    Originally posted by ImTellinTim
    I'm just wondering how much longer Chris Coleman has at Sunderland. They're looking like they're going down to League 1 on their first try. He went from the Euro semifinals to one result away from a WC qualifying playoff, and only 4 points from winning the group... To resigning to take a job at a toxic club. He could've had that Wales job forever. Now he'd have to usurp a Wales legend (though that could easily end up being a disaster)
    Giggs definitely isn’t a Wales legend, unless you were joking.

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    • ImTellinTim
      YNWA
      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #437
      The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

      Originally posted by Brahvocado
      Giggs definitely isn’t a Wales legend, unless you were joking.


      Well as much as one could be in his era where Wales was crap.

      I suppose the whole missing friendlies thing probably rubbed people the wrong way, but I don't really blame him...
      Last edited by ImTellinTim; 03-13-2018, 12:54 AM.

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      • Brahvocado
        MVP
        • Oct 2012
        • 7480

        #438
        Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        Well as much as one could be in his era where Wales was crap.

        I suppose the whole missing friendlies thing probably rubbed people the wrong way, but I don't really blame him...
        It's definitely more than just rubbed the wrong way, most Welsh don't consider him a legend at all. It was more than just skipping friendlies, his general level of play wasn't nearly as good as it was for United, his work ethic etc. most people who watched him play for Wales generally came away with the view that he wasn't trying very hard/heart not at all in it that kind of stuff. It also wasn't just a few friendlies, it was quite a lot and he even missed a few competitive fixtures as well.

        His appointment as Wales manager has been wildly unpopular.

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        • ImTellinTim
          YNWA
          • Sep 2006
          • 33028

          #439
          Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

          I guess I didn't realize that. I thought the disdain was more because he has absolutely no experience as the head manager of anything.

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          • ImTellinTim
            YNWA
            • Sep 2006
            • 33028

            #440
            Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

            Mark Hughes to Southampton? Gotta recycle those names!

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            • Krebstar
              is looking at stats.
              • May 2005
              • 12904

              #441
              Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
              Mark Hughes to Southampton? Gotta recycle those names!
              "He's got proven Premier League experience."

              "At this point, they need a safe pair of hands."

              "He'll provide a boost to the changing room."

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              • jb12780
                Hall of Fame
                • Oct 2008
                • 10665

                #442
                Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                Well the odds on Southampton getting relegated just increased. I mean they were already doomed, but Mark Hughes doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.


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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #443
                  Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                  In another situation, Hughes might be a decent appointment - if he had been out of a job for the year or something. But he just got fired for being in a relegation battle. I'm not sure if the players are going to exactly be filled with confidence in him right off the bat. The fans won't be for sure, so if he doesn't get the players ears immediately, it's going to go south quick.

                  Southampton has a grip of road matches left in the league. 5 of their 8 are away and two of their home matches are Chelsea and Man City. They could be in big trouble. They are also away to Wigan this weekend in the FA Cup.
                  Last edited by ImTellinTim; 03-13-2018, 12:22 PM.

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                  • Brahvocado
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 7480

                    #444
                    Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                    Southampton are usually one of the few Prem clubs outside the top 6 that actually "gamble" on foreign/lesser-known managers too.

                    Slightly surprised by this one.

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                    • Suntan Superman
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 7135

                      #445
                      Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                      Originally posted by Brahvocado
                      Southampton are usually one of the few Prem clubs outside the top 6 that actually "gamble" on foreign/lesser-known managers too.

                      Slightly surprised by this one.
                      I am, but I'm not, I don't know if they can afford to take another gamble at this point, I'd be more surprised if they don't have another new manager at this time next year if Mark Hughes does indeed get hired.
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                      • Suntan Superman
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                        • Feb 2009
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                        #446
                        Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                        At least the Saints did the right thing, Mark Hughes is on an 8-game contract.
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                        • jb12780
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 10665

                          #447
                          Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                          Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                          At least the Saints did the right thing, Mark Hughes is on an 8-game contract.


                          So he gets 8 games to show the club what the rest of the football world already knows?


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                          • Suntan Superman
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                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7135

                            #448
                            Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                            Originally posted by jb12780
                            So he gets 8 games to show the club what the rest of the football world already knows?


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                            Unless Soton win 4 or more, I don't see Hughes staying on even if they stay up. Hughes being a stopgap between two very different points allows them greater flexibility in the off-season to adjust to what their situation is. Chances are they want a different manager in the Championship than they do in the Premier League, plus managerial interest changes based on their status as well. While Hughes himself is probably not ideal, as a short-term manager they could do much worse.
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                            • Krebstar
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                              • May 2005
                              • 12904

                              #449
                              Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                              They should've made a decision far earlier, but with the situation they put themselves in I don't think this is a horrible decision and that's only because they've given him until the end of the season.

                              If they stay up, I can see them then finding someone else as they're clearly ready to move on from him in a few weeks. If they go down, they have even more reason to start fresh and bring in someone else.

                              They made this awful bed they're now in, but at least they're making a sensible decision (as of now) in terms of getting of it.

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                              • Suntan Superman
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                                • Feb 2009
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                                #450
                                Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                                The Pardiola is Overiola. West Brom and Alan Pardew have parted ways mutually. With as many wins as taxi cabs stolen, it was probably for the best. The question is, which retread will try to lead West Brom out of the Championship next year.
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