The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

[Brahvocado]

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Yeah I mean that's the thing, people always talk about Chelsea being short-sighted and needing managerial stability, but there is a sample size of over 2 decades to suggest that Chelsea doesn't actually need to do that.

[Krebstar]

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Yeah I mean that's the thing, people always talk about Chelsea being short-sighted and needing managerial stability, but there is a sample size of over 2 decades to suggest that Chelsea doesn't actually need to do that.

This morning I also thought about how it’s pointless for people to assume they’ll do anything differently or to expect them to change their approach. It’s who they are, and all Chelsea supporters know and understand this, far better than others.

It came into my head as it has always annoyed me if Arsenal supporters say we won’t spend as much money as others or “we can’t” and people point out that our owner is rich, and we can.

Yes, we can, but to think we will is to reject the reality we live in.

Same for non-Chelsea supporters to fault the club or supporters for accepting what they’ve long ago accepted—the club will spend money and the club will move on from managers quickly. The rest of us need to accept it, just as Chelsea supporters have long ago.

Hopefully that makes sense.

[Keirik]

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Also, for me personally, I made my peace with Lampard getting sacked the moment he was appointed, so I'm probably not as sad as i otherwise would be.

Most Chelsea fans knew this day would come eventually. The hope was there for sure, that he would just learn on the job and become great, but alas it was too big a job to do that properly. It's harsh on Frank and kinda fair at the same time. People talk about managers not getting enough time these days, which I agree with, but at the same time if a manager doesn't have enough of a cv there is no telling if they can pull a team out of a rut. People have compared Lampard to SAF in the beginning at United, but even that isn't really right cause SAF had won trophies as a manager in Scotland before coming to United.

There wasn't enough of a sample size to know if Lampard could pull the team out of this, and I guess the Chelsea board just wasn't willing to risk it, which is probably fair.

I'm pretty confident we will see him back at Chelsea in the future, I do think he has it in him to become a good manager.

Yeah that's a terrible comparison to SAF. What he did in Aberdeen prior to coming to United was already a massive accomplishment.

[KG]

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Yeah that's a terrible comparison to SAF. What he did in Aberdeen prior to coming to United was already a massive accomplishment.

Yeah the only managerial comparison I can think of is Pep. One year with Barca B and then thrust into the limelight. He just happened to inherit a generational Spain core, a league where their rivals were floundering, and some guy named Messi.

Obviously things worked out pretty for Josep.


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[Brahvocado]

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Yeah the only managerial comparison I can think of is Pep. One year with Barca B and then thrust into the limelight. He just happened to inherit a generational Spain core, a league where their rivals were floundering, and some guy named Messi.

Obviously things worked out pretty for Josep.


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Yeah that's probably the closest comparison, and for all intents and purposes we could consider Pep a generational talent, in the same way we would a player.

[Krebstar]

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Obviously things worked out pretty for Josep.

I heard he's a bald fraud.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Only an 18 month deal? Usually manager deals are like 3 or more. Then again 18 months is usually how long they last in the job anyway.

[KG]

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Only an 18 month deal? Usually manager deals are like 3 or more. Then again 18 months is usually how long they last in the job anyway.

Short term performance based. Like you said, most Chelsea managers don’t get more than 2 years anyway which I’m sure Tuchel understands.


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[Krebstar]

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Whether or not it's true, it was reported that he wasn't looking for something long-term from the start, either, and instead supported a short-term deal that could then turn into a longer deal.

Once Werner and Havertz pick up form I'm excited for all the nonsensical stories wondering or claiming that it's due to having a German speaking manager. Of course! Why didn't they think of that earlier?!

[Brahvocado]

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Tuchel is perfect for us because we are both well known for burning bridges, so we can just burn it together this time.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Surely cant be much longer until we see Steve Bruce out the door? Newcastle just sinking.

[Suntan Superman]

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Surely cant be much longer until we see Steve Bruce out the door? Newcastle just sinking.

You think Mike Ashley is gonna pay two managers? Who do you think he is Roman Abrahamovich?

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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You think Mike Ashley is gonna pay two managers? Who do you think he is Roman Abrahamovich?

He's probably still paying Rafa. He may as well come back and get it in person.

[Krebstar]

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He's probably still paying Rafa. He may as well come back and get it in person.

No. If he comes back they’ll stay up, and Ashley once again deserves to go down.

[Suntan Superman]

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He's probably still paying Rafa. He may as well come back and get it in person.

Unless he had deferred payments his contract with Newcastle did expire when he left, so Ashley shouldn't be paying him.