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[k1lo5]

I see the player creation is very limited in videos on youtube. Do we think they will implement game face can tech like NBA Live 16 coming in september? Surely EA can share tech between titles? Simple add on.

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[VTKombat]

Quote: Originally Posted by DivotMaker

Here's the deal. Not baffling at all if you understand NG game design and the decisions being made in this game market today. The RM Tiburon Golf Team is likely smaller than the TW14 Tiburon Team. The budget is likely smaller because they lost their @ss on TW14 commercially. Moving to Frostbite 3 was a resource intensive and expensive move, but one that HAD to be made. The old TW engine was 10 years old and had 9 versions with features added, subtracted, etc. It was held together with baling wire and TW14 had glaring patch issues that EA finally gave up on and walked away from. What have they been doing for 2 years? You would have to ask HANDSWARD, but I doubt he would go into any sort of detail. Since I have had a relationship with EA for the past 15+ years and I have been on the inside of the Golf operation, I will tell you what I think happened. As I stated above, the Frostbite 3 transition did not come overnight. The staff had to be trained and brought up to speed on the new engine as it was unfamiliar to them. Then they began to learn how to build assets like what they had in TW that they wanted to bring over as well as new assets. All new Mo-cap sessions, etc. Rebuilding each course in FB3 and transitioning the laser scans and artwork from each course to the new engine. These guys work 12-14 hour days. They, like many teams at EA are being asked to do more with less. They set out on a plan to deliver a certain amount of content and they either reached that plan or didn't. NG games take up more resources both in time, people and money than ever before and Devs and Publishers are trying their best to do less with more. I believe this is why we are seeing the initial games coming out with less content than their predecessors. I did not in any way think RM would match or even come close to matching the features or courses that TW14 did. In all honesty, I did think they would have brought more content and polish than what we have. However, I am hopeful they will bring forth the kind of support that we are not accustomed to by supporting and updating this game with the content we have been accustomed to. IMO, this game has NONE of the problems from TW. They have similar design decisions, but bugs and issues from Tiger are not there. The lack of a playoff is a design decision that has legal implications as described above. Does TGC have a playoff? Are you chastising them for their Season mode that came out broken on the Xbox causing users not to be able to play it? I like TGC and have over 500 rounds of play invested in it. There are many who claim RM is not a NG title. Just as many say the same about TGC. They are different approaches to the game of Golf. Sorry to draw TGC in here for this discussion, I just had to draw one parallel to compare. At the end of the day, why can't people just accept the fact that opinions about ANYTHING, much less Golf games are SUBJECTIVE and PERSONAL. You think EA dropped the ball on RM. That is your opinion and others agree. But I would say its 50/50 on those who like versus don't. I can somewhat understand the exasperation over RM's lack of content and I hope this helps explain what may be going on from someone who has been on the inside and has some perspective on the situation. Hang in there, I think the game has a good foundation and the great thing about FB3, is it is a VERY scalable engine that is light years better than the old TW engine and the best is yet to come IMO.

Sorry, I have been away from the net for a few days so I'm catching up on this thread. Everything you say here is pretty valid. I understand that moving to a new engine takes time and effort. Where EA fails tho, is their recent trend of putting out games with barebones content and still charging 60 bucks. It's ridiculous. This game should be listed ar 20 dollars with the option to buy dlc upgrades as they come out. I'm sick of their greed.

[Badgun]

Quote: Originally Posted by OnlookerDelay

Badgun! Long time no hear from (my alias is J_Cauthen from the Digitalsportspage.com forum and Jcauthen04 from the EA Sports forum). Me, 10spro and SSenator were getting ready to tee off for 9 at Troon last night on RMPGAT, and I saw your name on my Friend's list as I was inviting them. I would have sent you one, thinking you might have this EA version, but I saw your status was offline. Anyway, to answer your questions. There is only one par 3 course and that's Paracel Storm, an over-the-top fantasy course. There are 12 courses available at launch (13 if you go with the pre-order offer where you pick up Scottsdale along with it, although Scottsdale will be free to all on September 14th). What's pretty cool is that two of the so-called fantasy courses aren't really what I think of as fantasy courses. They're fictional courses, but ones that I could see existing in real life. The Wetlands is a fantastic Florida wetlands course and Lighthouse Pointe is a course along the Maine coast that is a little bit edgier, but one that's playable. I tried to play the other fantasy course, Coyote Falls I believe it's called, but quit after the ridiculous 3rd hole. I didn't even try Paracel Storm after watching the video featuring it... just not my cup of tea. I'm not really that juiced about this game though. It just doesn't feel finished. The online multiplayer is really lacking and is something I wouldn't want to bother with right now. I think EA Sports will continue to refine this game since they're no longer on an annual new game release cycle, but I'm going to hold off until I've seen enough progress to make it into what it should be. I think the Frostbite 3 engine is a good one to build from, but it's going to take time to get the refinements done that this game needs. It is sorely lacking in feel right now, IMO.

John, glad to hear from you and I do remember that user name from years ago. I have been away from the forums for about 5 years now. Real life, work, a divorce, a new marriage all played a role. My son uses the Badgun account and I mostly use Cowboys59 on Xbox live these days. I will send you a friend request. Thanks for the info about the game. I am definitely picking it up on Tuesday and maybe we can play a little bit.

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[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by wheels2121

This is from KennyTomson "only 6 licensed tournaments (A. Palmer classic, US open, the Open, The PLAYERS, PGA championship, Deutsche). Not sure how many TW14 had but I think it was at least in the teens."

Not sure how he came up with that unless he withdrew from each one or has played through. If so, I do stand corrected. Tiger 14 definitely had FAR more licensed tournaments. My apologies to that user and everyone else if that information is confirmed.

I do expect EA to add to that sometime soon, but not sure how without updating for next season.....

[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by terrycurran62

In the past EA have never had a problem getting the licences for their tw series so why have they suddenly started to run into issues. Or are they just saving money by not negotiating for any. I have always found EA strong point being their presentation of sports games as being a representation of reality. They seek to immerse the player in the ersatz real world. I am a massive fan of the FIFA series and am currently playing career mode on the ps4. It's an amazing experience because it's so accurate and real in many ways. The presentation in the UK is from our Sky sports perspective even using their commentary and studio teams. PES is simply ludicrous at the side of FIFA as it uses rediculous team names. The great draw for me with TW was that it did exactly the same as FIFA. Now it appears EA have slimmed down their approach and one must ask why? I remember playing pointless rounds of golf on the PC on games like links. They looked marvellous but the game was boring. The same has to be said with TGC. It's a derivation of all of those endless boring PC golf games. There is nothing on TGC to immerse the player in. I have preordered RMG as I love golf games. I only hope that EA can get their act together and provide the immersive experience that FIFA does. EA really don't seem committed to this game at this stage. F1 2015 on the ps4 is an unfinished game. It's unpolished and not really up to next gen standards. I really want RMG not to be the same.

I can see what you are saying and don't disagree. However, since they are moving to a non-yearly release model, I think they came in slimmer with RM than intended, but plan to build it from launch with a mix of free and paid DLC. Agree with those who feel it should not be $60 as well.

[Gerg04]

What I don't understand about the scoreboard / playoff / non-licensed players: if you can put their name up on the board and a score derived from some sort of algorithm without ever showing them or their swing....why can't they post a simulated score hole-by-hole in a playoff till it's decided?

[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gerg04

What I don't understand about the scoreboard / playoff / non-licensed players: if you can put their name up on the board and a score derived from some sort of algorithm without ever showing them or their swing....why can't they post a simulated score hole-by-hole in a playoff till it's decided?

They had that in one of the versions of Tiger and got so much feedback that it was not enough for a playoff in that users wanted to actually play against a likeness of the AI. What you describe may be the only way to do it. Need EA's thoughts on this......

[adh5199]

can you play a single player round with all the tournament liveries turned off (Crowd, towers, stands, etc)?