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Old 08-31-2015, 06:55 PM   #1
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Are there steals in the draft?

I know there are broken things in CFM, including generated rookies' attributes when compared to the real player pool. But I am curious as to whether anyone is finding varied value throughout the draft?

Last year, you could find both busts and gems throughout the draft. So far this year I can only find busts. I've yet to see someone with "1st Round Talent" that is projected outside of Rounds 1 or 2. It seems very rare to find anyone beyond Round 2 that has talent outside his projected round. Yet busts are littered throughout all rounds.

Am I just unlucky? Or is finding draft steals considerably broken compared to last year? I'm not talking about raw physical players in the late rounds that you can slowly develop... I'm talking about solid players outside the early rounds.
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Old 08-31-2015, 06:57 PM   #2
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I blindly picked a QB in the fifth round that was an 81 overall.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:05 PM   #3
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7th round, I landed a 79 overall RE named Gary Watson
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:34 PM   #4
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7th round, I landed a 79 overall RE named Gary Watson
Did you scout him beforehand? What round talent did it show him as?
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Did you scout him beforehand? What round talent did it show him as?
It had him as rated as an undrafted player, but I noticed that he had this highest combine grade with a 7.2 out of all the remaining prospects.

I wish I could tell you that it took talent, but I totally lucked out.
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Old 08-31-2015, 11:17 PM   #6
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I feel like scouting is kind of broken. It will let you know when you find a bust, but not really gems. An 82OVR stud that should go in the 1st, but is projected for the 5th, scouting will say has 5th Round Talent. I've yet to see scouting tell you a stud has earlier talent than the round he is projected. It only works that way with busts.
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Re: Are there steals in the draft?

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I feel like scouting is kind of broken. It will let you know when you find a bust, but not really gems. An 82OVR stud that should go in the 1st, but is projected for the 5th, scouting will say has 5th Round Talent. I've yet to see scouting tell you a stud has earlier talent than the round he is projected. It only works that way with busts.
I went through one CFM season doing the just the scouting and this jives with what I experienced. I didn't pay attention much to how things turned out but I did notice that there were very few guys with a true talent above their projection and overall very few guys with a different true talent than their projection. Maybe it's something they tried to do to prevent being able to pluck gems like that but if it is that's kind of stupid.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:36 AM   #8
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im finding that the scouting grade is the most important thing

everytime i've taken a player who was projected low round but had one of the top scouting grades, he's been a stud

most notably an 81 OVR QB projected 4th round whos got near identical throwing as russel wilson but better deep ball and 91 speed
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