Where did all the 4 and 5 WR sets go?

[phantomshark]

They eliminated all the 5WR sets (the 5WR Trio is still in Shotgun but it's actually 4 WRs and a TE now), they removed all 4WR sets from Singleback and Pistol except for Singleback Spread, and they removed a lot of the 4WR sets from Shotgun or made them 3WR sets. They also removed about half of the Pistol plays period. Why do you supposed they deemed this necessary?

[Jr.]

Quote: Originally Posted by phantomshark

They eliminated all the 5WR sets (the 5WR Trio is still in Shotgun but it's actually 4 WRs and a TE now), they removed all 4WR sets from Singleback and Pistol except for Singleback Spread, and they removed a lot of the 4WR sets from Shotgun or made them 3WR sets. They also removed about half of the Pistol plays period. Why do you supposed they deemed this necessary?

You can RS sub WRs into nearly all of those spread sets and turn them back into 4 and 5 WR formations

[Senator Palmer]

Per Anthony White, they did it to better reflect what teams were actually running. There are even some straight I-Form that have been eliminated from some playbooks.

[timhere1970]

Back to colllege?

[yourfavestoner]

I forgot who did it( maybe PFF?) but when you track position groupings, NFL teams are in 11 or 12 personnel sets like 80+% of the time. I know NYG was in 11 like 97% of thentime

Truth be told, not many teams run 4-5 WR sets because they become auto-blitz situations and most teams/QBs are not well equipped to handle it from a protection standpoint. Between 11 and 12 personnel, you can get into almost any formation you want and also have the flexibility to bkeep a solid 6 or 7 man protection if needed.

In real life football, if you go empty a lot you either need a running QB to flip the math and force the defense to account for him, or you better be elite at running the quick/screen game.

[yourfavestoner]

Found it, it was Football Outsiders.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...onnel-analysis

11/12 personnel 75%!

10 personnel just 2.5% of plays.

NFL offenses are very very homogenous and tbh bland. They're diverse on a micro-level but on a macro-levek everybody is running the same stuff.

[xSABOx]

Quote: Originally Posted by yourfavestoner

Found it, it was Football Outsiders. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...onnel-analysis 11/12 personnel 75%! 10 personnel just 2.5% of plays. NFL offenses are very very homogenous and tbh bland. They're diverse on a micro-level but on a macro-levek everybody is running the same stuff.

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/p...frequency.html

Pretty much... not to mention the evolution of the TE basically becoming the 4th WR in spread formations...

[jfsolo]

Yeah, even if the usage of true 10 and 00 personnel is low, I would still like to at least have the option to call it in a game. In the Sean McVay Rams playbook, my 5 wide sets all have a RB and a TE in them.