Patch 1.11..lil help

[Grey_Osprey]

Quote: Originally Posted by edgevoice

My take on slider sets, based on countless hours of testing, is very unorthodox. Not the thread to discuss this in but I firmly believe every slider has both a primary and secondary function. To take it back on point, I have found that lowering the tackle slider will enable RB's to utilize their respective moves far more frequently than @ default. I am speaking only from a User vs. CPU perspective and I have not tested CPU vs. CPU.

Edge, if you don't mind me asking, what are you using for tackle slider? Thx!

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[edgevoice]

Quote: Originally Posted by Grey_Osprey

Edge, if you don't mind me asking, what are you using for tackle slider? Thx! Sent from my SM-S727VL using Operation Sports mobile app

Don't mind at all. I put user tackle slider @ 30. Again, I do not know if this will help the OP with CPU vs. CPU as I have not tested my sliders regarding this play style.

[edgevoice]

Quote: Originally Posted by tuckermaine

Thanks edge...I’ve sort of adopted a mix of different sliders from the Matt’s and the Josh’s ect and slightly made adjustments. I’m constantly reading the slider threads for new breakthroughs. Yes I agree and I do keep my fumble slider low as I do my tackle slider...I’m not directing this at you ..but I have not had anyone reply to me that “Yes “ that offline Cpu ball carrier moves are there with help of sliders. I am hesitant to download patch and find same problem...don’t want to delete game load back up again. I guess I’m hanging on till next patch in hopes that Madden might fix this. Right now I’m getting great gameplay my only problem is the QB drop back glitch that was fixed in the patch that broke ball carrier special moves ...so ..I’m in limbo

For some reason, my XBOX was late to the party regarding the last update. Now that I have received it, although I am seeing some special moves by RB's with tackle slider set @ 30, definite decrease is these moves is noticeable. Previously, playing against a CPU RB almost felt like the same as user-controlled. No slider is going to remedy this.

[hyacinth1]

Glad I’m not the only one who felt this.

Release version game really played well.

Now it feels like 19 which sucked.

Does the game have an option to choose tuner or patch version?

I play offline anyway.

[OhMrHanky]

My thoughts on the tackle and fumble slider have always been something like this - we know there’s calculations going on during a play, and/or, simply from a programming perspective, these sliders have to affect certain things at certain times. As edge said, also, there’s always a primary and secondary effect, and possibly multiple secondary effects depending on the slider and whatever calculations are happening under the hood.

So, something like the tackle slider. The primary effect should certainly be simply whether or not a tackle is made by the defender when he hits a ball carrier. The higher the tackle slider, the more likely the ball carrier is tackled and vice versa. This is what u see, imo. But, I’ve also noticed the higher the tackle slider, the better the blockshed. This seems to me to be simply some calculation going on during a blocking assignment as a ball carrier comes close, some calculation happens for blockshed, and the tackle slider is a part of that, and so u get a quicker blockshed in order for the player to tackle the ball carrier.

So, the same has always appeared that way for ball carrier moves in relation to tackling. The lower the tackle slider, it’s almost as if a ‘zone of tackling radius’ is changed. Because the tackler now is less able to tackle the ball carrier, the ball carrier avoids the tackler at a greater distance or has better timing for jukes to not be tackled.

Fumble slider can be the same as well. I’ve heard over the years people like to put fumble slider high (less fumbles), and this helps the ball carrier as well. Meaning, because he fumbles less, he avoids big hits, or simply put, the hit stick animations won’t trigger because he won’t be in position because the fumble slide won’t ‘let him’ be in position.

In prior maddens, I always lowered fumble slider because I felt there weren’t enough fumbles, in general. This year is different. Lol. Way too many fumbles, so I’ve raised it to like 67 right now, I think, and many others are talking like 70-75 against enforcer x-factors.

I also think cpu Acc affects rb juking and spins. Lol. Sounds ridiculous, but again, these sliders can affect certain calculations going on, and even the devs admit they’ve had strange things happen when tuning the game. I think I’ve often seen better rb moves around 30-32 qb Acc.

All that being said, I recently played against Gurley, and while I recall him breaking a lot of tackles and gained 130 yards or so, I can’t remember him juking out anyone. So, I think edge may also be right that whatever madden added in the last update may not be able to be slidered out. I guess we’ll see.


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