whosnext00's Madden 12 Sliders ** including QBA chart

[whosnext00]

Special thanks to Playmakers for providing the base.

Updated 9/22/2011 - Testing Phase

For proper completion % use the provided QBA chart.
Contributors: Playmakers, whosnext00

Rules (These must be followed for any sliders out there to work)

1. No cheesing, use gameflow or ask madden.
2. Know your matchup before commenting about something that seems off.
3. Football changes game to game so play multiple games when testing and look at your averages.
4. Be honest about your skill level or use coach mode to even it out and you'll get honest feedback from these sliders.
5. READ EVERYTHING HERE BEFORE ASKING

whosnext00's Madden 12 sliders - changes is red
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Game Options
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Quarter Length: 13 Minutes = 120-130 plays
Auto-Sprint: ON
Injuries: 38
Fatigue: 62
Game Speed: Slow (adds weight to the players)
Speed Threshold: 0 (Best separation and ratings based, no CPU interference.)
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HUM/CPU Sliders
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QBA: 22/22 (use the lowest whole number in the QBA chart ONLY for both HUM/CPU.)
Pass Block: 70/70
WR Catch: 58/58 (Adjustments example: If QBA -10 points, add 10 to this. ie: Aaron Rodgers QBA = 8 so WR catch = 72 for HUM and CPU)
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Broken Tackles: 0/0 (you will see plenty of broken tackles)
Run Block: 3/3 (TE wasn't picking up block during outside runs)
Fumbles: 57/57
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Reaction Time: 0/0
Interceptions: 36/36
Pass Rush: 66/66
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Reaction Time: 11/11(Can also make running easier or harder)
Block Shed: 0/0
Tackle: 12/12 (Running difficulty: subtract = easier | add = harder)
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Special Teams
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FG Power: 47
FG Accuracy: 53
Punt Power: 49
Punt Accuracy: 51
Kickoff Power: 47
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Penalties - All 100 unless listed
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False Start: 60
Holding: 51
Facemask: 54
Clipping: 54
Roughing the Passer: 52
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Auto-Subs - coming soon
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What I need to make improvements (if any)

1. Box scores - Record them at the OS Generator
2. Avg time in pocket
3. Amount of dropped passes/INTs
4. RB tendencies - trucking or elusiveness
5. Amount of Broken Tackles
6. Amount of Fumbles and INTs

If I forgot something I'll add it to the list.
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For those who are confused about the QBA chart and WR adjustments

If you want to use Matt Ryan for instance, you would set the QBA to 16.

That's 6 points less than the default 22

Since we took off 6 points from the QBA for Matt Ryan, we're gonna add 6 points to WR catch making it go from 58 to 64.

If you do not add or take away points for the WR catch then you're likely to have wrong QB%'s.

This method is applied to both the HUM and CPU.
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CHECK THIS PAGE REGULARLY FOR UPDATES
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Any and all help testing these is appreciated.

Enjoy!

[bojo4444]

Longtime follower of PM, but was curious enough to check your sliders out. My advice, in order to avoid his problems, is to explain things as if people were idiots.

For example, based on your initial post, i can immediately see people confused about QBA and WR Catch. Use low side in QB chart for Hum, CPU, or both? Adjustments in WR catch for Hum, CPU, or both?

Just my advice, but thanks for your sliders. Also, thanks to PM if he is reading!

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by bojo4444

Longtime follower of PM, but was curious enough to check your sliders out. My advice, in order to avoid his problems, is to explain things as if people were idiots. For example, based on your initial post, i can immediately see people confused about QBA and WR Catch. Use low side in QB chart for Hum, CPU, or both? Adjustments in WR catch for Hum, CPU, or both? Just my advice, but thanks for your sliders. Also, thanks to PM if he is reading!

Thanks for the tip, I made a couple note changes for easier understanding.

[kongemeier]

Just took these for a quick spin!

Anyone who thinks the CPU passing offense won't hurt you with the low end slider... well, Stafford just went 20/25, 265 yards and 2 TDs 0 Ints on me (Vikes).

I don't have time to write you a boxscore, but I seriously felt for the first time in Madden 12 I was actually battling the CPU for field position. I think both offenses only had one long throw - the rest were quick passing which made the yards per play come way down compared to what Madden normally offers! GREAT!!!

Both Vikes and Lions struggled to run really well with both HB finishing close to 3 YPC.

On 2 PA passes I got stuffed right after faking the hand off. We also got to Stafford 5 times, so I really think either pass rush has to come a bit down or pass block should go to 100. But again, this is based on one game

Overall the best sliders for my playing style as I felt it actually was the first time I've seen Madden 12 represent an NFL game! Big kudos to PM for taking the first step and whosnext!!

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by kongemeier

Just took these for a quick spin! Anyone who thinks the CPU passing offense won't hurt you with the low end slider... well, Stafford just went 20/25, 265 yards and 2 TDs 0 Ints on me (Vikes). I don't have time to write you a boxscore, but I seriously felt for the first time in Madden 12 I was actually battling the CPU for field position. I think both offenses only had one long throw - the rest were quick passing which made the yards per play come way down compared to what Madden normally offers! GREAT!!! Both Vikes and Lions struggled to run really well with both HB finishing close to 3 YPC. On 2 PA passes I got stuffed right after faking the hand off. We also got to Stafford 5 times, so I really think either pass rush has to come a bit down or pass block should go to 100. But again, this is based on one game Overall the best sliders for my playing style as I felt it actually was the first time I've seen Madden 12 represent an NFL game! Big kudos to PM for taking the first step and whosnext!!

I'm glad you enjoyed them.

Play some more games and see if you still see sack issues but your numbers really aren't an issue, I could see the Vikes getting 5 sacks against the lions all day. The Raiders had 5 sacks against the Broncos last Monday.

Asses the running game some more, 3ypc isn't what I've been getting so it was probably just that matchup.

The pass rush and pass block have a lot to do with the QB % and check downs. At 95 pass block QBs get too much time but sacks are where they need to be b but QB % is off so I'll have to figure a way to work it.

Thanks for the info, helps a lot.

[kongemeier]

New York Jets at Jacksonville Jaguars
Sep 18, 2011	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
New York Jets (user)	0	9	3	15	27
Jacksonville Jaguars (cpu)	3	0	7	7	17

Team Stats Comparison
	NYJ	JAC
Total Offense	430	416
Rushing Yards	82	40
Passing Yards	348	376
First Downs	15	13
Punt Return Yards	13	11
Kick Return Yards	62	79
Total Yards	505	506
Turnovers	1(+3)	4(-3)
3rd Down Converstion	2-13(15%)	5-11(45%)
4th Down Conversion	1-1(100%)	0-0(0%)
2-Point Conversion	1-1(100%)	0-0(0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	3-3(100%)	2-4(50%)
Penalties	7-55	3-25
Posession Time	35:20	24:40

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		NYJ	JAC
4:45	(JAC) J.Scobee, 39 Yd FG	0	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		NYJ	JAC
11:11	(NYJ) N.Folk, 20 Yd FG	3	3
4:31	(NYJ) N.Folk, 38 Yd FG	6	3
0:00	(NYJ) N.Folk, 19 Yd FG	9	3
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		NYJ	JAC
9:57	(NYJ) N.Folk, 33 Yd FG	12	3
8:20	(JAC) M.Thomas, 80 Yd pass from L.McCown (xp good)	12	10
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		NYJ	JAC
6:11	(NYJ) D.Mason, 53 Yd pass from M.Sanchez (xp good)	19	10
4:50	(NYJ) S.Holmes, 50 Yd pass from M.Sanchez (2pt)	27	10
3:06	(JAC) M.Jones-Drew, 2 YD run (xp good)	27	17

New York Jets PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M.Sanchez 24/31 369 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S.Greene 22 52 2,5 0 L.Tomlinson 4 17 4,2 0 J.Conner 1 8 8 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D.Mason 8 192 24 1 S.Holmes 5 104 20,8 1 P.Burress 3 27 9 0 D.Keller 3 27 9 0 J.Kerley 2 24 12 0 S.Greene 1 -1 -1 0 J.Conner 1 3 3 0 L.Tomlinson 1 -7 -7 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK N.Mangold 0 2

Jacksonville Jaguars PASSING C/A YDS TD INT L.McCown 22/37 381 1 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M.Jones-Drew 17 34 2.0 1 G.Jones 2 4 2.0 0 D.Karim 1 -1 -1 0 L.McCown 1 3 3 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M.Lewis 8 95 11.8 0 J.Dillard 6 86 14.3 0 J.Hill 4 40 10 0 M.Thomas 2 151 75.5 1 G.Jones 1 1 1 0 M.Jones-Drew 1 8 8 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK U.Nwaneri 0 1

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Played as a play now match-up. Used 15 min. quarter with 11 sec left on play clock.

Sacks:
NYJ: 1
JAZ: 2

Broken Tackles:
NYJ: 2 (S.Greene)
JAX: 0

Fumbles:
NYJ: 0
JAX: 1 (M.Jones-Drew)

Dropped Passes:
NYJ: 0
JAX: 1 (G.Jones)

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by kongemeier

New York Jets at Jacksonville Jaguars Sep 18, 2011 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE New York Jets (user) 0 9 3 15 27 Jacksonville Jaguars (cpu) 3 0 7 7 17 Team Stats Comparison NYJ JAC Total Offense 430 416 Rushing Yards 82 40 Passing Yards 348 376 First Downs 15 13 Punt Return Yards 13 11 Kick Return Yards 62 79 Total Yards 505 506 Turnovers 1(+3) 4(-3) 3rd Down Converstion 2-13(15%) 5-11(45%) 4th Down Conversion 1-1(100%) 0-0(0%) 2-Point Conversion 1-1(100%) 0-0(0%) Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 3-3(100%) 2-4(50%) Penalties 7-55 3-25 Posession Time 35:20 24:40 Scoring Summary FIRST QUARTER SCORING NYJ JAC 4:45 (JAC) J.Scobee, 39 Yd FG 0 3 SECOND QUARTER SCORING NYJ JAC 11:11 (NYJ) N.Folk, 20 Yd FG 3 3 4:31 (NYJ) N.Folk, 38 Yd FG 6 3 0:00 (NYJ) N.Folk, 19 Yd FG 9 3 THIRD QUARTER SCORING NYJ JAC 9:57 (NYJ) N.Folk, 33 Yd FG 12 3 8:20 (JAC) M.Thomas, 80 Yd pass from L.McCown (xp good) 12 10 FOURTH QUARTER SCORING NYJ JAC 6:11 (NYJ) D.Mason, 53 Yd pass from M.Sanchez (xp good) 19 10 4:50 (NYJ) S.Holmes, 50 Yd pass from M.Sanchez (2pt) 27 10 3:06 (JAC) M.Jones-Drew, 2 YD run (xp good) 27 17 New York Jets PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M.Sanchez 24/31 369 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S.Greene 22 52 2,5 0 L.Tomlinson 4 17 4,2 0 J.Conner 1 8 8 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D.Mason 8 192 24 1 S.Holmes 5 104 20,8 1 P.Burress 3 27 9 0 D.Keller 3 27 9 0 J.Kerley 2 24 12 0 S.Greene 1 -1 -1 0 J.Conner 1 3 3 0 L.Tomlinson 1 -7 -7 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK N.Mangold 0 2 Jacksonville Jaguars PASSING C/A YDS TD INT L.McCown 22/37 381 1 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M.Jones-Drew 17 34 2.0 1 G.Jones 2 4 2.0 0 D.Karim 1 -1 -1 0 L.McCown 1 3 3 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M.Lewis 8 95 11.8 0 J.Dillard 6 86 14.3 0 J.Hill 4 40 10 0 M.Thomas 2 151 75.5 1 G.Jones 1 1 1 0 M.Jones-Drew 1 8 8 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK U.Nwaneri 0 1 "> Played as a play now match-up. Used 15 min. quarter with 11 sec left on play clock. Sacks: NYJ: 1 JAZ: 2 Broken Tackles: NYJ: 2 (S.Greene) JAX: 0 Fumbles: NYJ: 0 JAX: 1 (M.Jones-Drew) Dropped Passes: NYJ: 0 JAX: 1 (G.Jones)

Thanks for the info

Try to play your games in franchise mode where DPP comes into effect. You'll see some different results.

Anyone else trying out these sliders too? I need more opinions and box scores.

[Ogimaa]

Hey thanks for the work, will give them a try today at some point.