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Old 04-01-2009, 02:17 AM   #25
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Heck, just go back to the kick meter that Madden 2004 had. That meter was vicious on the all-madden level.
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:34 AM   #26
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Re: Automatic from 52 yards out

I feel so strongly about this...


The ball needs to sail. No kicker hits all of his kicks without some kind of curve. I've seen kicks that looked like screwballs.

The ball needs to have more curve and sail at the end...and wind needs to be more of a factor. The ball does not have any bend to it..like a soccer ball...and it needs to sail or tail off at the end.
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:40 AM   #27
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Gonna jump in here because we're having this conversation on twitter and I think we should move it to a more logical location for an extended conversation.

Megatron2k7 asked- "@xtremedunkz @adembroski What did you guys think of the kicking system in APF2k8...? I wasn't a huge fan, but liked some aspects of it."

I liked the aspects that it's not automatic, but honestly, I prefer the LastGen kicking system... yes, the antiquated meter was just fine. Not everything needs to be on the stick.

There's a big piece of the puzzle everyone's missing.

Does anyone remember a kicker named Jose Cortez? He played for the 49ers, Cowboys, and the Redskins (I think). He had one major weakness in his game, other than a bad habit of mouthing off to the strongest man in NFL history... and that was his inability to get any loft on his kicks.

Everything was line-drive... so he was blocked several times a season. To this point, we've always just had absolute control over our trajectory... why? This is the primary reason blocks never happen... because we can simply put enough loft on the ball to get over the defenders with no risk of failure (not to mention the poor kicked ball physics to begin with).

There was a punter with a similar issue. Black dude, played for the Gaints, I can't remember his name, but he used to hit 90 yard punts. Problem was, they were so low the returner had a 20 yard head start before anybody could get near him.

So, there are three aspects of kicking... maybe that's a bit much to ask someone to deal with on a routine extra point, so here's my proposal...

The user should control, with some difficulty, accuracy and angle-of-takeoff. Distance will be based on a combination of angle and KPW rating. So an arrow in front of the holder goes up and down and you press to stop it, then it starts going left and right, you press to stop it. Get the right angle and you'll get maximum distance... but it'll be low so the defense has a better chance to make the block. For extra points, it'd be prudent to take a high angle to avoid the block.
Just thought I'd tell you the punter you spoke of was Rodney Williams.
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Yeah I can't do nothing with kaeding from the chargers.

In 2008 nate kicked his career long 57 yards and I can't even get it from the 45 in madden, something needs to be done about this.

The least longest field goal he has kicked has been from 49 yards, Why can't I hit with him from a good distace away???
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even if that was the case it wouldn't solve the real problem which is it is nearly impossible to miss a kick wide. it never happens even from the farthest distances.
Well actually you can If the wind is strong enough, b/c I was a pretty good distace away it was like a 30 or 35 yard field goal, it was dead on but the wind must have pushed it to the left or it might have been the kick. I don't know??? but i missed it wide
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Just thought I'd tell you the punter you spoke of was Rodney Williams.
That's him, thanks. I would never have believed a 90 yard punt was possible if I hadn't seen him do it when he was with the Giants.
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Very nice, good illustration.
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