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  • DaFunk4
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 86

    #1

    CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

    Well up to last nite I tried everything to get the game to play solid since release and tried everything. I basicly gave up last nite and gave it one more go from something I read on the forums.

    I played the game on all pro not touching any sliders and put game speed to very slow, which is the slowest game speed. The blocking is perfect I cant beleive it. Seems like the slower speed makes everything run how it was supose to be. Feels 10x more sim like and the cpu plays 10xs better. The run and pass game is perfect as well.

    It seems like the slower speed makes all the animations kick in and I noticed that for every block theres a tiny animation and on faster speeds it must screw the animations up.
  • DaFunk4
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 86

    #2
    Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

    Also im no joe smo in Madden Ive been ranked #1 online in the past for months straight now I just enjoy playing a franchise online. I test the crap out of everything.

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    • wheelman990
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 2233

      #3
      Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

      I play on the slowest speed for this very reason. Sad but very true.

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      • DaFunk4
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 86

        #4
        Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

        Basicly its fixes the blocking. The blocking is perfect. So if the horrible blocking bothers you give very slow game speed a try. The games default speed is slow and I really dont notice a diffrence in very slow except everything plays better and the blocking is perfect.

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        • Hoos
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3998

          #5
          Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

          Originally posted by DaFunk4
          Basicly its fixes the blocking. The blocking is perfect. So if the horrible blocking bothers you give very slow game speed a try. The games default speed is slow and I really dont notice a diffrence in very slow except everything plays better and the blocking is perfect.
          I saw this the other idea and have only played one game at this speed, but I have to agree, the CPU and over all game experience was top notch!! Gonna play a few more this way with some different rated teams and see if the gameplay holds up.

          So far so good
          XBL Gamertag: hoos4974

          PSN: hoos4974

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          • njmcfreak
            Rookie
            • Jul 2005
            • 333

            #6
            Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

            I can't play on slow or very slow because the gameplay bores the hell out of me and the game seems way too easy. I blow the cpu out every game on slow, but normal or fast I actually get a decent game out of them points wise.

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            • maademperor
              Rookie
              • Aug 2009
              • 297

              #7
              Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

              interesting...I wonder why though. the game speed should just speed up the motion, not alter the AI...the AI should react the same whether it will take 2 seconds to engage a block or 1 second to engage the same block

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              • booker21
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 4928

                #8
                Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                Originally posted by maademperor
                interesting...I wonder why though. the game speed should just speed up the motion, not alter the AI...the AI should react the same whether it will take 2 seconds to engage a block or 1 second to engage the same block
                i think it`s the other way around..

                on slow or very slow, i have like 8 or more secs to make a decision. On Fast or very fast you have a lot less time to make the decisions.

                So in a way.. i disagree with the OP. and i actually think, it`s the other way around.
                English, is not my first language.

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                • SGMRock
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 991

                  #9
                  Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                  what do you put your speed threshold at?
                  Go Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines!

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                  • NINERZ#1FAN
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 82

                    #10
                    Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                    I find it ridiculous that we have to try all these settings and ask all these questions just to get the game to play right.

                    With that said.. i would also like to know if you changed the speed threshold?

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                    • SGMRock
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 991

                      #11
                      Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                      AI Defense plays better when its higher but its also pretty unrealistic because players with 85 speed keep up with players with 95 speed.
                      Go Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines!

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                      • fcb-santana
                        Rookie
                        • May 2009
                        • 99

                        #12
                        Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                        The players are slower, but why should the speed of the ball also slow down? Did all the QBs strength go down as well? Very unrealistic.

                        Then I also saw that the refs were faster than the players. Some RB is outrunning the entire defense, but the ref is backtracking in front of the RB

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                        • Agame
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 681

                          #13
                          Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                          Game Speed---Intricate part of player animation For LINE PLAY and making the game’s Player Ratings more Sim?


                          I have been playing Madden 10 since Midnight Madness it seems…(My wife says it’s 24/7)….I have been playing on Normal Speed most of the time. Moved to Fast…..did not think it played “sim” style for the O-line/D-line interaction. Right Guard almost always played Matador ---O-lay to the guy in front of him and moved over to Double the NG or someone else. Since I think football starts with LINE PLAY it was important to find a way to get better results. I experimented with various Slider Sets and found one that best fits my game style and skill level, but Line Play was still too weak.

                          I decided to try VERY SLOW game Speed. The Line Play was actually very good.
                          The Right Guard blocked who is was supposed to most of the time. The running game for the computer improved. Remember, I am using the same Slider Set that I used for Normal and the game plays much better---at least for the offensive/defensive line play and for Blitzing Linebackers.


                          Everyone will have a strong opinion on which game speed looks best, but for line play-
                          Very Slow makes the animations and ratings work. Sm27 and adembroski and anyone who has an interest in better game play---take the time to try it out.

                          As always-just my 2 cents
                          A game---Re Post from my thread

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                          • BFawlty
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 74

                            #14
                            Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                            I'm also curious about the threshold you're using at this speed, is it default, which I believe is 50? Thx

                            BF
                            Last edited by BFawlty; 09-04-2009, 08:10 PM.

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                            • SGMRock
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 991

                              #15
                              Re: CPU AI is 10xs better on slowest game speed.

                              I'm using 10 atm I find that if you turn up the defense reaction time high but leave the threshold low you get less warping but the defense plays better coverage but still a LB wont keep up with a WR like they will if you put that threshold to high or the reaction time to high along with the threshold being high.

                              Like if you set the threshold to 100 and the pass defense reaction time for the CPU to 100, no one is ever open in man coverage :P unless the CPU player runs into someone and gets brushed off, they will stick to the person they are defending like glue so I think its better to have high reaction for run and pass defense on the CPU but keep the threshold low so the play to their abilities as far as athletes but they are not stupid and don't cover people like they should.
                              Last edited by SGMRock; 09-04-2009, 08:20 PM.
                              Go Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines!

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