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Old 03-04-2010, 05:29 PM   #9
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Re: help please, stop swing pass to rb

Then just control the CB.
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Old 03-04-2010, 05:46 PM   #10
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If the RB is fast enough, those contain plays won't work because the RB will already be past the contain before the linemen/LBs can even get into position.
I know, but the LB or DE will often stop or set up right in the throwing lane between the QB/HB. The contain guys aren't going to stop the HB, they're there to try and swat the pass.

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Cover 2 doesn't always work, either, because flat zones are real sketchy in this game and usually end up with the CB playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage.
Yeah, because the CB backs up to follow the wideout on his side who runs a route right past him. Once the wideout leaves his zone, the DB returns to his spot, but usually the QB throws to the HB before he returns to his spot. Highlighting the halfback seems to make this happen faster, as the DB sees the highlighted player approaching his zone and breaks off sooner.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:10 PM   #11
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Re: help please, stop swing pass to rb

Controll the MLB and mark the RB yourself. Or just tell him to stop cheesing.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:04 PM   #12
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Re: help please, stop swing pass to rb

Audible your linebacKers to sideline coverage works for me
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Old 03-04-2010, 11:23 PM   #13
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Re: help please, stop swing pass to rb

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I know, but the LB or DE will often stop or set up right in the throwing lane between the QB/HB. The contain guys aren't going to stop the HB, they're there to try and swat the pass.
Yes, but if the other guy knows what he's doing, he can get the ball to the flats before the LB/DE even have time to set up in the throwing lane.

Contains are null and void if the guy throwing the flat route is quick enough on the trigger.

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Yeah, because the CB backs up to follow the wideout on his side who runs a route right past him. Once the wideout leaves his zone, the DB returns to his spot, but usually the QB throws to the HB before he returns to his spot. Highlighting the halfback seems to make this happen faster, as the DB sees the highlighted player approaching his zone and breaks off sooner.
Again, if the ball comes out quick, the RB is going to be receiving the ball while the CB is way off the line of scrimmage chasing the outside WR downfield.

No one who makes the flats their primary offense is going to be waiting around for the CB to come back to the line of scrimmage before getting the ball out the RB who's wide open in the flats.

This is a general problem with the AI for all flat zones.

The CB's first move is always to chase the WR upfield instead of staying on the line of scrimmage like he's supposed to.

Hence the flats are open all day long against the cover 2 and cover 3 variants that feature the light blue flat zones.

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Old 03-04-2010, 11:26 PM   #14
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Audible your linebacKers to sideline coverage works for me
The route is going to the flats and then cuts to the middle.

Just spread ur D-line drop ur DT into a yellow zone, and bring pressure from the outside. Gets him to throw a quick pass and its a pick.
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