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08-16-2011, 01:18 PM | #9 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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but understand that most people--when they play videogames---just don't care if the Sam LB is in the wrong spot on 3rd down.....u & I know this & so does EA.....try this....find your co-workers (who even game)..and ask them if they play madden.....I know 5 guys in the workplace with me who've never even heard of OperationSports (their loss, I know). heck--even myself...when I throw in a NASCAR game...I have no clue about all the finite details of racing--nor do I care...i just like going fast....so that's who you sim ballers are up against (the casual gamer)...not Tiburon.
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08-16-2011, 03:05 PM | #10 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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08-16-2011, 03:38 PM | #11 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Starting with the development cycle of Madden 10, EA has been consistently talking about a balance between realism and fun while saying things like "yeah, we could make ____ more realistic but that would take away from the pick up and play appeal of Madden". That's fine, most people understand that this is a business and there are more casual consumers than hardcore football enthusiast. However, I will never understand and have yet to see it explained, how from a business POV or a common sense one, that precludes EA from adding a "realistic" factory setting option, that's as realistic to NFL football as Tiburon can make it, in Madden. If I missed that explanation, someone please direct me to the link. This stuff about casuals versus hardcore as a reason for Madden not being more realistic is a poor excuse, imo. Build the game as realistic as possible, then preset it to a casual friendly setting "out the box" for casuals while including the realistic setting "in the box" as an option for the hardcore. This plan of building Madden casual friendly, then allowing hardcore gamers to attempt to make the game more realistic with sliders, is backwards, imo. I am honestly starting to believe that Tiburon, for whatever reason, didn't know how to make a realistic football game these past 6 years and the whole "realism/fun balance" thing was bunk. |
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08-16-2011, 04:39 PM | #12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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but again...EA (like everyone) is on the planet to make money NOT to cater to the sim crowd. so if joe sixpack can't just pick up and play...ala drop back with his QB & huck it deep off his back foot........he simply won't buy it EDIT...for the record...I'm not defending EA....i once was a 2k fanboy--go look up my posts----im just stating "it is what it is"
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08-16-2011, 04:46 PM | #13 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I get it. You're not an on-field control freak like me. You may very well be a Franchise control freak though so I'll try to relate this in terms that apply to that mode specifically... Would you start a Franchise then let the AI decide who you draft, who you trade, who you cut, and your depth chart on your Franchise? I'm going to guess you would not (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Furthermore, I'm sure you also seek out ways you can improve your performance in what you deem the most important parts of the modes you choose to play (hence you draft speed). Obviously we play for different reasons because you play a mode of the game that has never appealed to me since it's inception. Franchise mode does not appeal to Timothy N. Turner and no matter how many other people like it, it holds no value for me. So our interest in this game is fundamentally different. But let's put that aside for a moment and discuss where you and I are the same. Neither of us trusts the CPU AI. The difference is that you believe it will one day be smart enough. I do not. But these statements do not imply that the AI shouldn't be better. We would both appreciate a smarter AI, but I don't have the patience to wait for EA to make it better. I need smarter opponents RIGHT NOW. Online and Offline head-to-head play is how I achieve my goal of finding 'suitable' opponents. I feel imposing your will on another player is the beauty of football, real life and otherwise. The beauty of playing how I play (if you're not on board, it's OK) is the wonderful juxtaposition. While I can't control what my opponent does, I can control what he will be successful doing and in essence - I can control what opponents do. The only tools I use are the tools EA provides for the specific purposes for which they were provided. All that being what it is... The most important thing is whether we have fun playing or not. For me, my approach toward the game make it fun even at the height of frustrating losses because I leave every game with something I didn't have before the game started - Reps. So I'll ask you... Is your approach to Madden leading to fun EVERY GAME? If not, you are allowed to change your approach so that it is. Later
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08-16-2011, 05:17 PM | #14 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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OR I'm also allowed to try and get EA/TIB to add/enhance/change my favorite mode so that it is infinitely more enjoyable. |
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08-16-2011, 05:31 PM | #15 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I think the above POV is a bit too narrow. I have trouble thinking that nobody wants to see the game improve. Nobody here is going to say that Madden is perfected. But there's a line between constructive criticism and suggestion and outright blame.
Are you suggesting that Madden would in fact be more fun if we didn't actually control the players? Because that's coach mode, that's already in the game. But mind you, this is still a game. And while some love coach mode, others do not like watching the action. Video games require interaction. I prefer to play the QB position myself. |
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