Buddy Ryan's Goaline Defense

[sgibs7]

Thoughts on Buddy Ryan's "Goaline Defense" when it comes to Madden.


"The opponent is inside the 5-yard line going in to score. There is less than 15 seconds left. We want to stop their offense from scoring, and in the process, we want to run the clock down to where they have enough time for just one play. So, we will stop them, get penalized half the distance to the goal, but leave them with enough time to run one play. We will then go back to our regular goal line defense and stop them to win the game."

How far are you willing to go?

[Big FN Deal]

I don't know about back in the day but now ish like this would likely get a coach/def coordinator fired, lol. Most NFL QBs would recognize this at the LOS and use it as a free play, audible to a pass, which would result in only a few seconds coming off the clock.

[55]

The Giants pulled a form of this cheap tactic in the Super Bowl against the Pats a couple of years ago, albeit from further away but with the same goal in mind: take time off the clock and only give them one legit chance.

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I don't know about back in the day but now ish like this would likely get a coach/def coordinator fired, lol. Most NFL QBs would recognize this at the LOS and use it as a free play, audible to a pass, which would result in only a few seconds coming off the clock.

Pretty good evidence that the Giants did it to the Patriots with 17 second remaining in Super Bowl 46.

Deep bomb to Hernandez down the sideline. 12 Men penalty gave up 5 yards but they prevented a TD.

In theory they could have kept doing it.

Whats that say for competition in Madden.

How far is to far?

[55]

I don't know how this relates to Madden at all since there is no possible way to send more than 11 defenders out there on any given play in the game.

[kehlis]

These are the things sgibs7 is looking to discussed so I'm going to move it back to the Madden forum.

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I'm asking about a professional coaching strategy's decisions and how it relates to Madden. Many people believe there is some sort of unwritten code in how you are supposed to play. - no, no huddling - no quick snapping - no user catching - etc How does Buddy Ryans decision to literally cheat the game make people feel about their own Madden game?

[8mileroad]

I forget exactly how it worked, but didn't Penn State do something like this years ago to run time off the clock before halftime on a kickoff?

Nevermind, it was Wisconsin doing it to Penn State. Article: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...loophole_x.htm

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by sgibs7

Pretty good evidence that the Giants did it to the Patriots with 17 second remaining in Super Bowl 46. Deep bomb to Hernandez down the sideline. 12 Men penalty gave up 5 yards but they prevented a TD. In theory they could have kept doing it. Whats that say for competition in Madden. How far is to far?

You provoked me to look more into this stuff and it seems that antics like you are referring to are covered under in the NFL and NCAA rule book under the palpably unfair act rule.

[Rule 12-3-2:The defense shall not commit successive or continued fouls to prevent a score. Penalty: For continuous fouls to prevent a score: If the violation is repeated after a warning, the score involved is awarded to the offensive team.

(NCAA) Rule 9-2-3 Unfair Acts
The following are unfair acts:
a. A team refuses to play within two minutes after ordered to do so by the referee.
b. A team repeatedly commits fouls for which penalties can be enforced only by halving the distance to its goal line.
c. An obviously unfair act not specifically covered by the rules occurs during the game (A.R. 4-2-1-II).
PENALTY—The referee may take any action he considers equitable, including assessing a penalty, awarding a score, or suspending or forfeiting the game.]


So the Giants could not have kept doing it without a penalty, the same thing should apply for this type of stuff in Madden. However since we don't have actual officials, gamers should be kicked out of leagues and banned from online ranked for this conduct.