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Lombardi · 10-05-2013, 02:49 PM

8 Games in my pile on Page 9. can copy paste it all if nessisary. dunno know exact total for games but can we get it to 12 games or even 14? I think were at about 10-11? now?

sl8b · 10-05-2013, 10:20 PM

We are now at 10.

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Test 3		Human	Cpu	Combined	League Average (per team)
Wins		6	4	10		-
Total Plays	58.4	49.1	107.5		60.8
Avg. Score	22.6	19.2	41.8		21.5
Total Offense	358.6	326.6	685.2		335.1
Pass Yds	247.4	257.0	504.4		218.5
Rushing Yd	124.4	89.4	213.8		116.7
YPC		4.8	5.3	5.0		4.2
First Downs	15.5	17.5	33.0		18.7
Comp. %		64.1%	64.5%	64.3%		60.9%
INT %		1.3%	4.4%	2.8%		3.1%
Penalties	1.0	3.5	4.5		5.9
Penalty Yds	10.0	18.5	28.5		48.7
Sacks By	5.0	2.5	7.5		2.2
Punts		4.0	4.0	8.0		4.8
Punt Yds	43.5	42.4	42.9		44.1
FG %		100.0%	100.0%	100.0%		81.3%

Kerwinius · 10-06-2013, 12:12 PM

I think I'll be using these sliders for my franchise as it seems to be the best fit.

I was in the mood to create a 32-team franchise and watch all the games, but as you can't watch CPU v CPU in franchise mode I figured the best bet would be to coach mode one of the teams and hope that I could find sliders where the Human actually loses occasionally. In the results I've seen posted of your most recent set it looks like it's fairly even. For fairness' sake, I can just always play the home team so that if there is a slight imbalance, it could be explained as home-field advantage (which to my understanding isn't in madden).

I'll be using these sliders with a couple slight modifications.

I'll be using Gameflow instead of Ask Madden so that I can be an unbiased observer. I doubt this would upset the data as it's calling the plays that the computer would call.

I also want to change the minutes to 15 and maybe run more time off the play clock on each play. I just hike the ball as soon as the playart goes away so whatever makes that work. Again, I doubt this would effect your stats either, since as long as the target plays per game is similar it should be the same.

I'm plan on doing practices as well (I know I'm OCD) and to use the weeks in preseason to iron out the plays per game and finalize for the regular season.

So however long it takes me to do this, I'll eventually have some data for you. Let me know if you're interested in me collecting this data for you on the later games. I'm going to get started on this today, but I assume you'll not be interested in preseason games?

sl8b · 10-06-2013, 10:24 PM

We probably wouldn't want to include preseason games in our data for the official tests, but I would be interested in hearing about the games. Number of plays, how the game looks, etc.

And when you get to the regular games, your data would be priceless.

Thanks for posting.

bmcauley · 10-07-2013, 12:17 PM

Is anyone having issues with CPR QBs throwing to many INTs? My defense is not that good but they are getting 4-4 a game. In one game the AZ QB threw 6 INTs.

I have the CPR now down to 15.

sl8b · 10-07-2013, 11:56 PM

In the most recent test (10 games), the cpu has thrown: 0,1,1,2,3,0,1,1,4 and 2. Who are you playing with?

bmcauley · 10-09-2013, 10:46 AM

Last night I played against Aaron Rogers and he only threw 1. I changed INT for CPR to 25. Before that I played RG3 who threw 3 and Johnny Manziel (Rookie) in my CCF for AZ who threw 6.

I will keep testing it but I will say that this last game I did NOT press with my Defensive Backs which I was doing before on almost every play. I think that had a lot to do with it.

My last game against the Packers was almost perfect. A little on the low scoring side but otherwise good. I was the Lions and went down 13-0 in the 1st qtr after GB scored a TD on a pass to J. Finley and then 2 FGs. I came back and by the 3rd qtr I took the lead 14-13 with a 35 yard scramble after a screen pass from Stafford to Barry Sanders Jr (thats correct, this is not a typo).

GB ended up beating me 16-14 after another FG. Great game though.

Kerwinius · 10-15-2013, 06:34 PM

Week 1 Results:

So here's my results for week 1. I'll be posting them as I complete them.

Only differences are that I'm using Gameflow instead of Ask Madden and I'm using 15 minute quarters with 12 Accelerated Clock.

Note: I am the home team in every game

Baltimore Ravens @ Denver Broncos:

Spoiler

Baltimore Ravens at Denver Broncos
Sep 5, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Baltimore Ravens (1-0)	3	10	3	6	22
Denver Broncos (0-1)	3	0	0	7	10

Team Stats Comparison
	BAL	DEN
Total Offense	440	265
Rushing Yards	182	12
Passing Yards	258	253
First Downs	22	13
Punt Return Yards	13	-1
Kick Return Yards	50	59
Total Yards	503	323
Turnovers	2	2
3rd Down Converstion	5-14 (35%)	5-13 (38%)
4th Down Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-1 (0%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/5	1/0
Penalties	5-30	5-55
Posession Time	47:32	12:28

Baltimore Ravens
PASSING	C/A	YDS	TD	INT
Joe Flacco	24/32	276	0	2
RUSHING	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD
Ray Rice	24	145	6.0	1
Bernard Pierce	7	28	4.0	0
Joe Flacco	4	6	1.5	0
Vonta Leach	1	3	3.0	0
RECEIVING	REC	YDS	AVG	TD
Deonte Thompson	5	54	10.8	0
Dennis Pitta	5	53	10.6	0
Torrey Smith	5	41	8.2	0
Ray Rice	4	78	19.5	0
Vonta Leach	3	25	8.3	0
Marlon Brown	1	15	15.0	0
Ed Dickson	1	10	10.0	0
BLOCKING	PANCAKE		SACK
Vonta Leach	3		0
Jah Reid	1		0
Eugene Monroe	1		0
Kyle Juszczyk	1		0
Marshall Yanda	1		0
DEFENSE	TACK	SACK	INT	TD
Jimmy Smith	5	0	1	0
James Ihedigbo	5	0	0	0
Daryl Smith	4	0	0	0
Corey Graham	3	0	0	0
Michael Huff	3	0	0	0
Arthur Brown	3	0	0	0
Courtney Upshaw	2	0	0	0
Lardarius Webb	2	0	1	0
Matt Elam	2	0	0	0
Elvis Dumervil	2	1	0	0
Christian Thompson	1	0	0	0
Gino Gradkowski	1	0	0	0
Chris Canty	1	1	0	0
KICKING	FG	XP	PTS	LONG
Justin Tucker	5/5	1/1	16	36
PUNTING	NO	YDS	AVG	IN20
Sam Koch	1	32	32.0	0
KICK RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Jacoby Jones	2	50	25.0	0
PUNT RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Jacoby Jones	2	13	6.5	0

Denver Broncos
PASSING	C/A	YDS	TD	INT
Peyton Manning	23/46	267	1	2
RUSHING	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD
Knowshon Moreno	6	12	2.0	0
RECEIVING	REC	YDS	AVG	TD
Demaryius Thomas	6	81	13.5	1
Knowshon Moreno	6	41	6.8	0
Wes Welker	5	67	13.4	0
Julius Thomas	4	59	14.7	0
Trindon Holliday	2	19	9.5	0
BLOCKING	PANCAKE		SACK
Chris Kuper	1		0
Joel Dreessen	1		0
J.D. Walton	0		1
DEFENSE	TACK	SACK	INT	TD
Von Miller	11	1	0	0
Shaun Phillips	10	1	0	0
Wesley Woodyard	8	0	0	0
Duke Ihenacho	6	0	0	0
Robert Ayers	4	0	0	0
Quanterus Smith	3	0	0	0
Chris Harris	3	0	0	0
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie	3	0	0	0
Malik Jackson	2	0	0	0
Rahim Moore	2	0	1	0
Sylvester Williams	2	1	0	0
Kevin Vickerson	2	1	0	0
Champ Bailey	2	0	1	0
Derek Wolfe	1	0	0	0
Danny Trevathan	1	0	0	0
KICKING	FG	XP	PTS	LONG
Matt Prater	1/1	1/1	4	50
PUNTING	NO	YDS	AVG	IN20
Britton Colquitt	4	189	47.2	1
KICK RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Trindon Holliday	2	36	18.0	0
Wes Welker	1	23	23.0	0
PUNT RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Trindon Holliday	1	-1	-1.0	0

New England Patriots @ Buffalo Bills:

Spoiler

New England Patriots at Buffalo Bills
Sep 8, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
New England Patriots (1-0)	3	7	7	3	20
Buffalo Bills (0-1)	0	3	7	6	16

Team Stats Comparison
	NWE	BUF
Total Offense	379	185
Rushing Yards	75	83
Passing Yards	304	102
First Downs	20	11
Punt Return Yards	23	26
Kick Return Yards	50	137
Total Yards	452	348
Turnovers	1	0
3rd Down Converstion	9-16 (56%)	5-14 (35%)
4th Down Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/2	1/2
Penalties	6-50	2-17
Posession Time	32:15	27:45

New England Patriots
PASSING	C/A	YDS	TD	INT
Tom Brady	29/43	371	2	0
RUSHING	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD
Stevan Ridley	15	72	4.8	0
Shane Vereen	1	5	5.0	0
Tom Brady	1	-2	-2.0	0
RECEIVING	REC	YDS	AVG	TD
Danny Amendola	12	170	14.1	1
Matthew Mulligan	4	74	18.5	0
Rob Gronkowski	4	29	7.2	0
Julian Edelman	3	64	21.3	0
Josh Boyce	3	18	6.0	1
Stevan Ridley	2	6	3.0	0
Danny Aiken	1	10	10.0	0
BLOCKING	PANCAKE		SACK
Nate Solder	2		1
Danny Amendola	1		0
Matthew Mulligan	1		0
Ryan Wendell	1		0
Michael Hoomanawanui	1		0
DEFENSE	TACK	SACK	INT	TD
Jerod Mayo	5	0	0	0
Vince Wilfork	5	0	0	0
Dont'a Hightower	4	0	0	0
Adrian Wilson	3	0	0	0
Kyle Arrington	3	0	0	0
Dane Fletcher	3	1	0	0
Alfonzo Dennard	3	0	0	0
Brandon Spikes	3	0	0	0
Rob Ninkovich	2	0	0	0
Tavon Wilson	2	0	0	0
Devin McCourty	2	0	0	0
Logan Ryan	2	0	0	0
Chandler Jones	2	0	0	0
Aqib Talib	1	0	0	0
Steve Gregory	1	0	0	0
KICKING	FG	XP	PTS	LONG
Stephen Gostkowski	2/2	2/2	8	42
PUNTING	NO	YDS	AVG	IN20
Ryan Allen	5	213	42.6
KICK RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Danny Amendola	1	30	30.0	0
Matthew Slater	1	20	20.0	0
PUNT RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Julian Edelman	2	23	11.5	0

Buffalo Bills
PASSING	C/A	YDS	TD	INT
E.J. Manuel	12/28	106	1	0
RUSHING	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD
C.J. Spiller	17	50	2.9	0
E.J. Manuel	4	-12	-3.0	0
Fred Jackson	3	20	6.6	0
Tashard Choice	2	25	12.5	0
RECEIVING	REC	YDS	AVG	TD
C.J. Spiller	4	18	4.5	0
Marquise Goodwin	3	20	6.6	0
Robert Woods	2	38	19.0	0
Stevie Johnson	2	25	12.5	1
T.J. Graham	1	5	5.0	0
BLOCKING	PANCAKE		SACK
Cordy Glenn	1		0
Kraig Urbik	1		0
Fred Jackson	0		1
DEFENSE	TACK	SACK	INT	TD
Jairus Byrd	9	0	0	0
Aaron Williams	6	0	0	0
Nigel Bradham	6	2	0	0
Stephon Gilmore	5	0	0	0
Manny Lawson	5	2	0	0
Arthur Moats	4	1	0	0
Jerry Hughes	4	3	0	0
Kiko Alonso	2	0	0	0
Jamaal Westerman	2	1	0	0
Mario Williams	2	0	0	0
Kyle Williams	2	0	0	0
Marcell Dareus	2	1	0	0
Duke Williams	2	0	0	0
Leodis McKelvin	2	0	0	0
Ty Powell	1	0	0	0
KICKING	FG	XP	PTS	LONG
Dan Carpenter	3/3	1/1	10	57
PUNTING	NO	YDS	AVG	IN20
Brian Moorman	5	200	40.0	1
KICK RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
Brad Smith	3	107	35.6	0
C.J. Spiller	1	18	18.0	0
Fred Jackson	1	12	12.0	0
PUNT RETURN	RET	YDS	AVG	TD
C.J. Spiller	3	26	8.6	0

10-05-2013, 02:49 PM	#105
Lombardi Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: Madden 25 NFL Stats Coach Mode Slider Test 8 Games in my pile on Page 9. can copy paste it all if nessisary. dunno know exact total for games but can we get it to 12 games or even 14? I think were at about 10-11? now?

10-06-2013, 12:12 PM	#107
Kerwinius Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Jul 2012	Re: Madden 25 NFL Stats Coach Mode Slider Test I think I'll be using these sliders for my franchise as it seems to be the best fit. I was in the mood to create a 32-team franchise and watch all the games, but as you can't watch CPU v CPU in franchise mode I figured the best bet would be to coach mode one of the teams and hope that I could find sliders where the Human actually loses occasionally. In the results I've seen posted of your most recent set it looks like it's fairly even. For fairness' sake, I can just always play the home team so that if there is a slight imbalance, it could be explained as home-field advantage (which to my understanding isn't in madden). I'll be using these sliders with a couple slight modifications. I'll be using Gameflow instead of Ask Madden so that I can be an unbiased observer. I doubt this would upset the data as it's calling the plays that the computer would call. I also want to change the minutes to 15 and maybe run more time off the play clock on each play. I just hike the ball as soon as the playart goes away so whatever makes that work. Again, I doubt this would effect your stats either, since as long as the target plays per game is similar it should be the same. I'm plan on doing practices as well (I know I'm OCD) and to use the weeks in preseason to iron out the plays per game and finalize for the regular season. So however long it takes me to do this, I'll eventually have some data for you. Let me know if you're interested in me collecting this data for you on the later games. I'm going to get started on this today, but I assume you'll not be interested in preseason games?

10-06-2013, 10:24 PM	#108
sl8b Rookie OVR: 4 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Greenville, SC	Re: Madden 25 NFL Stats Coach Mode Slider Test We probably wouldn't want to include preseason games in our data for the official tests, but I would be interested in hearing about the games. Number of plays, how the game looks, etc. And when you get to the regular games, your data would be priceless. Thanks for posting.

10-07-2013, 12:17 PM	#109
bmcauley Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: May 2009	Re: Madden 25 NFL Stats Coach Mode Slider Test Is anyone having issues with CPR QBs throwing to many INTs? My defense is not that good but they are getting 4-4 a game. In one game the AZ QB threw 6 INTs. I have the CPR now down to 15.

10-07-2013, 11:56 PM	#110
sl8b Rookie OVR: 4 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Greenville, SC	Re: Madden 25 NFL Stats Coach Mode Slider Test In the most recent test (10 games), the cpu has thrown: 0,1,1,2,3,0,1,1,4 and 2. Who are you playing with?

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10-09-2013, 10:46 AM	#111
bmcauley Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: May 2009	Re: Madden 25 NFL Stats Coach Mode Slider Test Last night I played against Aaron Rogers and he only threw 1. I changed INT for CPR to 25. Before that I played RG3 who threw 3 and Johnny Manziel (Rookie) in my CCF for AZ who threw 6. I will keep testing it but I will say that this last game I did NOT press with my Defensive Backs which I was doing before on almost every play. I think that had a lot to do with it. My last game against the Packers was almost perfect. A little on the low scoring side but otherwise good. I was the Lions and went down 13-0 in the 1st qtr after GB scored a TD on a pass to J. Finley and then 2 FGs. I came back and by the 3rd qtr I took the lead 14-13 with a 35 yard scramble after a screen pass from Stafford to Barry Sanders Jr (thats correct, this is not a typo). GB ended up beating me 16-14 after another FG. Great game though.

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