Madden NFL 10 Trailer

[Segagendude]

Game trailer looks fine to me. Can't wait to see more....!

[rckabillyRaider]

Gang tackling looked pretty good. Nice to see the ref on the field and the crowd actually looked alive.
Now the ugly part, the running animation as many have already mentioned, looked very robotic and stiff. And are little running backs gonna be breaking gang tackles regularly?

[Briankbl]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcxiv

Ian set hisself up with saying that he doesnt want to be compared to 2K5 anymore.

LOL Then EA shouldn't have taken the NFL/ESPN licenses and done NOTHING with them. Thank God EA did not acquire Take-Two...

APF 2K8 is the most realistic "on-field" simulation of football. Even-so, 2K5 is still the best overall packaged football game ever made. If EA wants to stop the comparisons, then either:

A) Finally port over all the features/modes Madden NFL 2005 had to the next-gen versions!!!! My God, we still haven't gotten a proper Owner mode! In Madden 2001, you ported over the basics: Exhibition, Season, Franchise and improved game play/graphics. 2002, EA throws in all kinds of stuff to elevate the franchise.

Madden 06, was a basic port: Exhibition, Season, Franchise and improved graphics, but the game play was butchered. No in-depth defensive adjustments, broken QB Vision Cone, etc. 07 rolls around and you would expect something similar to what happened last-gen: the first game to port over the basics of the series, then the next game to put all the features back in and build upon that.

But when 07 finally comes around, we get no owner mode, no improvements to presentation, no improvements to online, create-a-playbook hiatus for several years (this was in the PS1 games, folks...), no CPU vs CPU matches, etc. Just another bare-bones game featuring a roster update.

OR

B) They can release the exclusive NFL License, which would IN FACT BENEFIT THEM by allowing competition to drive their product to new heights.

Wow, a whole lot of rant and gibberish up there. I am tired, it's 4am. Sorry, lol.

[raphael]

Quote: Originally Posted by Briankbl

LOL Then EA shouldn't have taken the NFL/ESPN licenses and done NOTHING with them. Thank God EA did not acquire Take-Two... APF 2K8 is the most realistic "on-field" simulation of football. Even-so, 2K5 is still the best overall packaged football game ever made. If EA wants to stop the comparisons, then either: A) Finally port over all the features/modes Madden NFL 2005 had to the next-gen versions!!!! My God, we still haven't gotten a proper Owner mode! In Madden 2001, you ported over the basics: Exhibition, Season, Franchise and improved game play/graphics. 2002, EA throws in all kinds of stuff to elevate the franchise. Madden 06, was a basic port: Exhibition, Season, Franchise and improved graphics, but the game play was butchered. No in-depth defensive adjustments, broken QB Vision Cone, etc. 07 rolls around and you would expect something similar to what happened last-gen: the first game to port over the basics of the series, then the next game to put all the features back in and build upon that. But when 07 finally comes around, we get no owner mode, no improvements to presentation, no improvements to online, create-a-playbook hiatus for several years (this was in the PS1 games, folks...), no CPU vs CPU matches, etc. Just another bare-bones game featuring a roster update. OR B) They can release the exclusive NFL License, which would IN FACT BENEFIT THEM by allowing competition to drive their product to new heights. Wow, a whole lot of rant and gibberish up there. I am tired, it's 4am. Sorry, lol.

Madden 06 didn't have a franchise mode. Good points though.

[raphael]

why does the wii version get colored but not the 360 and ps3 one? **** that!

[NYGmen56]

Quote: Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA Just wanted to drop in and say hello from my hotel in NYC. Long day today - up early and demo'ed Madden 10 to a TON of press people from 10 to 4. It was good to meet a lot of folks I hadn't really talked to much before like Brian Ekberg from Gamespot, PastaPadre, and Chris from NCAA Strategies (and many many more people that I will have to check back in my contact list to remember their names). The game showed pretty well (I believe) - we are holding a ton of stuff back until E3 so I felt really hamstrung with what we could show today, but just the PRO-TAK tech alone really wowed a ton of people...so that was encouraging. After an event like this it's a good reminder to all the tuning we still have to do as a few things were still 'cringe-worthy' (as I call them), but all in all I think the reactions were quite positive even we were showing what I believe was an extremely limited demo. Speaking of PRO-TAK, it is going to be on display in the video on GTTV tonight, so I can't wait for you guys to see it. I am dead for tonight and have a ton of stuff booked tomorrow so I don't know if I'll be on after the video displays, but I look forward to you all picking apart everything as usual and finding the good and bad. You'll see some stuff that you don't like I'm sure (I know I did), but I really hope you get a bit of a surprise when you see PRO-TAK on full display. Looking forward to the impressions... Peace out - see you in a few days. So let me list what I thought was good and bad...... The good....... Gang Tackling OL/DL Interaction is good but not great On field Refs The Bad......... It seems like the center for both teams was in no mans land every time. That was either a poor trailer by GT or the graphics were not that great at all. Throwing Motion was robotic Player movement was robotic and stiff as a board. Player movement was same as Madden 09 IMO Defensive Backs like the double team on Fitz was not even looking at him. There was no pocket formed at all from what I seen. The same branching tackle animation in Madden 10 as was in 09. When you see a finesse back like Willie Parker move a pile and break out of 2 players doubling up on a tackle is pathetic. No wonder Ian got 300+ yards with Brandon Jacobs when he played. Seemed like the refs was getting knocked down every play. You hardly ever see this in the NFL. The towels were not animated to sway as the player moves. The player models looked horrible with there arms, helmets, face mask, and more. Think about what you just saw and ask yourself this question.... If I was going to make a game and put a trailer of that game on a national exclusive would I want the best my new game has to offer in that trailer? The answer for everyone would be yes. Now answer this..... If that is the best that Madden 10 has to offer than how can you be happy with the product? Please take the time to compare that video with a game who has already perfected it. I want Madden 10 to be GREAT so I can have fun again so please don't take this as a ***** post. Do I like the video of Madden 10? No, But I would love to see a better game trailer soon! Madden 10......... Now lets compare to the APF videos I made for Ian to look at.... How a QB Drop can look in a Football Video game.... QB Droback, Run & Chuck in APF and how the Shoulders need to be square, Feet Planted, and when throwing deep how he must wind up to make the pass.... OL / DL Interaction the way it should be or better..... __________________

Exactly!!! Very well put Nflhitman.. Seriously. As much lip as hes received from most posters & mods in this thread, he has and made valid points. This post here with the 3 Vid comparisons to 2K cannot be denied period.. The proof is in the pudding people.. And the 3 vids show this. I don't care much for talk, whatever Ian and co, and even the 5 reputable guys that went to the community day have to say talk is cheap. Bottom line is those 3 vids NFLHITMAN posted show exactly what Madden 10 is lacking! It shows what Next Gen football animation for an oline/dline should be like.. Period.. No way around it. No excuses. Sorry but it can't be said or shown any clearer. Look at the 3 vids and compare them to Madden's and you will see. It's not that hard. You just have to open your eyes...

If Ian and co can't get Madden to that point, it just will never be realistic or authentic.. And maybe it's not Ian fault, who knows, just maybe maybe it could be the Dev's(Tiburon)?? Maybe they are just not as talented as 2k's Dev's.. New game Engine needed??? Who knows.. You would think by now they would have gotten close to what 2K was doing 5 years ago?? Sorry for being such a pessimistic, but after so many years of disappointment from Madden, it's kinda hard not to be..

Much props to NFLHITMAN for this post..

[Goffs]

ya know watching the ol/dl interaction was disappointing its still lacking that violence...watching the clip 1:21 its just the way their engaged...

still early though i hope they can fix that

[Behindshadows]

It was a trailer of replays and close ups, I don't see how many people can be impressed with that. It's not gameplay with playbook calling and things like that.

Yet! Majority of this thread is turning everything into a compare to APF or 2k5 thread ever other post. I mean wow! Your trying to compared a 2 minute clip to 2 full versions of another game including your posting gameplay videos of the other games, compared to cutscenes.

People seriously stop comparing this game every damn year to 2k5! And enough of the APF videos we get it, 2k does great animations and then again not all of them were great in APF.

2 mins of cutscenes doesn't scream bad game. It's a trailer! Nothing more or less, we see **** trailers of movies all the time. And when you see the full film the movie is great.

Trailer was ho ha at best, nothing great!