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Old 04-29-2009, 05:32 PM   #41
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Im not as worried about the running animations right now.....If it still looks all herky jerky after E3 then we have a problem
I think the EA guys either don't see it, don't believe us, or just refuse to acknowledge the issue with the jerky movements / missing frames during game play.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:32 PM   #42
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Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

I wasn't blown away with Pro-Tak until that video. I'm impressed with what I saw in those videos.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:33 PM   #43
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Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

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My take away:
  • Jerky Movements (quick snaps from one animation to another)
  • Instant Turns (why???)
  • Camera Angle is too far out at the start of plays (at least for me)
  • Madden still looks dark (can we get some brightness???)
  • Still looks like there are missing frames when the game is in motion (yet the game looks good in replay.... 2.5 weeks later, and still no answer to why this is the case)
  • Pro-Tak looks really, really kewl
the game isnt dark its a night game..how bright do you want it
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:36 PM   #44
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Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

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I think the EA guys either don't see it, don't believe us, or just refuse to acknowledge the issue with the jerky movements / missing frames during game play.
The video was taken before Ian made the thread here saying that they were tweaking animations (as we speak). So they are acknowledging it.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:37 PM   #45
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Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

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My take away:
  • Jerky Movements (quick snaps from one animation to another)
  • Instant Turns (why???)
  • Camera Angle is too far out at the start of plays (at least for me)
  • Madden still looks dark (can we get some brightness???)
  • Still looks like there are missing frames when the game is in motion (yet the game looks good in replay.... 2.5 weeks later, and still no answer to why this is the case)
  • Nice to see passes affected by tackles (ducks)
  • Pro-Tak looks really, really kewl
Really one positive is all you can muster from those videos? I think your comments have been very constructive the past few days, I actually really think you've got an open mind but this post seems real nit picky to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion however.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:38 PM   #46
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You're the only guy I see who says that collectively, the game looks better in replay than it does during the game.

To me, a flaw in the past couple years were that some of the tackles were "fast-fall" animations. This made it seem like there were frames missing in some of the animations. I didn't notice many of these ugly tackles in CD build I played.

I'm hard-pressed to believe that you think the EA Sports Highlight vids, which are basically replays, look better than Madden 09 in motion.

P.S. No one is entitled to a response to the devs. Add your name to the list...it's impossible for them to respond to everyone.
I notice the missing frames in the gameplay from '09, and all I can go by is the videos thus far which appear to still suffer from the same problem. I probably notice it more because I'm a hard core APF2K8 player and that game is very fluid (though no where near as detailed). Beyond the game play, the missing frames is a huge turn off for me, and IMHO the primary reason that players refer to the robotic look of the game.

I always thought Madden looked really bad, until I watched a replay, and the thing was fluid as all get out. I was baffled. I couldn't figure out how in the world it looked so solid / fluid in the replay and yet appeared to be missing frames during the game. Is it the speed, the rendering? There has to be a reason, and I hope it's something they can fix, but thus far it appears to be the same as '09 (just going off the videos).

Agree about the last part of your post, but I would like to point out that Ian has read and responded to posts that had the question in it, thus the feeling that they are ignoring and/or dodging it.
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I guess I'm the only one who wasn't blown away. Probably because I'm just tired of looking at the same ol' camera angle. There's definitely some improvements that are shown, but if I'm still stuck without any camera choices I'm unfortunately probably going to have to pass.

BTW, thanks for the link to the videos...good find!
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Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

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My take away:
  • Jerky Movements (quick snaps from one animation to another)
  • Instant Turns (why???)
  • Camera Angle is too far out at the start of plays (at least for me)
  • Madden still looks dark (can we get some brightness???)
  • Still looks like there are missing frames when the game is in motion (yet the game looks good in replay.... 2.5 weeks later, and still no answer to why this is the case)
  • Nice to see passes affected by tackles (ducks)
  • Pro-Tak looks really, really kewl
agree... While some things did look good, some didn't.. One huge one that bugs me was the clip where he throws the ball with big Ben like 30yds down the field and both DB's didn't even look back or jump up, they just fell down at the same time while the WR jumped up with the same ole animation and caught the ball?? That just does not look good! it look so cartoony and unrealistic..
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