Performance Vs. Equal Potential - I am Confused

[marktg30]

Just finished my second season with Cleveland. Won the Super Bowl over the Saints (say what you want about that being 'sim'....lol).

The problem is this:

James Davis Started as a 68 OVR with B Potentialin 2009.

• He ran 277 times 1424 yards and 17 TDs and progressed nicely to a 74 OVR.
• Won Offensive ROY and NFL RB Of the Year
  

I drafted a new HB after losing Jerome Harrison (HB - J. Jones)
Jones come in rated at 74 with B Potential.

In 2010

• James Davis ran 309 times for 1775 yards ad 13 TDs and won NFL Running Back of the Year for the second straight year.
  
• J. Jones ran 40 times for 108 yards and 6 TDs (a lot of TDs inside the 5 yardline)...

Now here's the kicker....

• Davis progressed only 3 Points to 79 OVR
• J. Jones progressed 6 points to an 80 OVR

I don't think it is too much to ask for an explanation of this screwy progression system.

EDIT -
Just simmed the next season to see what would happen.
-James Davis ran for 787 yards and 2 TDs (Progressed to 81 OVR) +2
-J. Jones ran for 265 yards and ZERO TDs (Progressed to 85 OVR) +4

This isn't right, it is in fact an insult and punishment to anyone that tries to do the best they can with a talented player.

Players have PRE-DETERMINED Ratings Progression, let it be known.

[kcarr]

my first guess looking at the situation is davis's potential is around 81-82 and he slowed down because he is near it. The other guy probably has potential around 87-88 and since he isn't near that yet is still moving along. Players in their first couple years will generally progress as long as they don't preform terribly.

Also, it could have to do with where they were in different individual attributes and how much that allowed them to progress in those attributes and in doing so progress overall. For instance if one player has around 50 awareness and the other is around 80 it will allow the guy at 50 to progress faster in terms of awareness. It is possible that in areas such as awareness, vision, etc which have high effect on a rbs overall and improve pretty quickly davis was rated higher than the other guy and therefore was less likely to see huge improvements.

[Jump]

Progression isn't solely based on performance, and that's the way it should be.

[kingkilla56]

Yeah this game is looking more and more like that other game. First presentation and now these if-y predetermined ratings boost.
I remember in that other game that no matter what Eli Manning went from a 79 to an 85 to a 90 to 100 in 4 years everytime. After a few retried seasons the progression was identical. I think madden is following.

Madden 04 progression was best

[Argooos]

This post highlights one of the major problems with progression. With potential as a set cap on progression, it ruins a lot of the fun of franchise mode. No matter how well you do with a player he will never exceed his potential.
Potential ratings should simply be a guide about how quickly a player progresses based on normal performance. If a player does exceptionally well in a season he should progress no matter what his potential is.

[Homecourt]

The only thing that I would add is that one guy's B potential is not another guys B potential. Some might argue this, but my reasoning is based on the ability to sort by that category. Even when the players have ??s on other teams in franchise where you can't see the actual numbers, the column still sorts.

[shigogouhou]

You all should be happy the productive players are staying at lower OVR ratings. Cheaper to re-sign them that way.

On topic: look around the NFL, look around college football. There are people who have great seasons, great careers, even, who aren't great players, they're merely good players in great situations. Production is based on the talent you have, and just because somebody isn't a 99OVR doesn't mean they can't produce like one given the right circumstances.

[marktg30]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jump

Progression isn't solely based on performance, and that's the way it should be.

You are taking a portion of what I am saying to 'prove' your point.

Both players have the same Potential....