Weight and Height Should Factor DIRECTLY Into OVR Ratings

[J Masta J]

[quote=mvb34;2040856084]

Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

OVR is directly tied to how the AI values a given player. I'm not arguing for this, but it is, and always has been, a fact. If OVR isn't going anywhere, than I think this makes sense. A tall WR should have more value than a shorter one, everything else being held equal. More value=higher OVR.[/quote] Carolina's Steve Smith will say otherwise..

Wrong. A 6'3 version of Steve Smith would be a whole lot better.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

OVR is directly tied to how the AI values a given player. I'm not arguing for this, but it is, and always has been, a fact. If OVR isn't going anywhere, than I think this makes sense. A tall WR should have more value than a shorter one, everything else being held equal. More value=higher OVR.

Except the more valuable players aren't always the ones with higher OVR.

The higher OVR player might have more AWR, but worse physical skills that end up making that AWR less useful on the field.

I love Derick Mason, but I would take Percy Harvin first because he is more of a weapon in Madden. Harvin is a upper 70's OVR WR, and he would perform better for me (and the AI) than some guys in the mid-upper 80's.

If OVR must stay, it needs to be heavily tweaked and re-balanced because right now, imo, it's as much a "trap" as it is something useful to go by.

Adding height/weight on top of it (especially since it doesn't do anything) would be even worse.

[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by cletusdog

Maurice Jones Drew says no

As I said before, different positions would value heights differently.

[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

Except the more valuable players aren't always the ones with higher OVR. The higher OVR player might have more AWR, but worse physical skills that end up making that AWR less useful on the field. I love Derick Mason, but I would take Percy Harvin first because he is more of a weapon in Madden. Harvin is a upper 70's OVR WR, and he would perform better for me (and the AI) than some guys in the mid-upper 80's. If OVR must stay, it needs to be heavily tweaked and re-balanced because right now, imo, it's as much a "trap" as it is something useful to go by. Adding height/weight on top of it (especially since it doesn't do anything) would be even worse.

You don't need to take my argument and tie it to a bunch of other things, like the overvaluing of awareness or whatever.

It's really simple: EVERYTHING ELSE BEING HELD EQUAL, a player who's build matches up with his position better/provides some sort of advantage should be rated higher.

* And again, i'm talking about a subtle difference in ranking, just enough so the AI can get the idea that this player has more value than the other.

[mvb34]

[quote=J Masta J;2040856105]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvb34

Wrong. A 6'3 version of Steve Smith would be a whole lot better.

Not really..

[J Masta J]

[quote=mvb34;2040856282]

Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

Not really..

Do you have anything to back that up, or are two word responses with ellipses all you've got?

Steve Smith, if he suddenly grew 6 inches and retained all of his previous abilities, would be an absolute terror.

[mvb34]

[quote=J Masta J;2040856293]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvb34

Do you have anything to back that up, or are two word responses with ellipses all you've got? Steve Smith, if he suddenly grew 6 inches and retained all of his previous abilities, would be an absolute terror.

Steve Smith already dominates DBs him being 6'3" won't make that much of difference. Except maybe they will throw fades to him on the goal line..

[RavensFan2k3]

I agree, and the stupid thing is that EA made height and weight directly affect the OVR rating of imported rookies in NCAA when imported into Madden. You could have a RB with 99 everything, but if he is small for his position, his ratings will take a huge drop. Its so ****ing ********