Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

[Flamehead]

I will say this HAS been an interesting read and props to everyone for expressing their opinions without getting inflammatory.

I will say though, I am (respectfully) as much fascinated with those who say "it's early" as they are of the ones who are skeptical of the info so far. I'm of the belief that after 6 years on the current gen consoles, the track record is such that the skepticism is well-founded.

I admire those who are optimistic, giving EA the benefit of the doubt (it is a noble thing), but I believe that optimism should be earned by EA first. I'm sure some people's optimism is based on the fact that '10 WAS a better game, so can't fault you there.

But I can't fault those whose patience has run out either. Early? IMHO, after 6 years, there is no "early" anymore.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Flamehead

I will say this HAS been an interesting read and props to everyone for expressing their opinions without getting inflammatory. I will say though, I am (respectfully) as much fascinated with those who say "it's early" as they are of the ones who are skeptical of the info so far. I'm of the belief that after 6 years on the current gen consoles, the track record is such that the skepticism is well-founded. I admire those who are optimistic, giving EA the benefit of the doubt (it is a noble thing), but I believe that optimism should be earned by EA first. I'm sure some people's optimism is based on the fact that '10 WAS a better game, so can't fault you there. But I can't fault those whose patience has run out either. Early? IMHO, after 6 years, there is no "early" anymore.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bgamer90

Yep... Madden 11 is finished and ready for release. Anyways, in terms of news about them working more in depth on fixing sideline catches, what would you guys have wanted more? No info at all about the matter, more than likely causing ones to ask EA, "Did you guys fix sideline catches?!?" and then say, "They aren't responding... they must not have been fixed! EA is lazy!!!!!"? Or would you all have rather them do what they did now with this IGN article along with the recently released blog? Seems like either way a lot of you guys would be acting pretty much the same (judging on how ones are acting now).

Some probably would. I tell you something else. I have a feeling that you would be acting differently if all the responses were positive.

I have yet to see you say to anyone that has a favorable opinion that it is too early to form an opinion. Let's call a spade a spade, you're trying to sound diplomatic, but the truth is you only think it's too early to form an opinion unless it is a positive one.

You can say I'm wrong, but I'm just judging by what has transpired in the pages of this thread.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

Some probably would. I tell you something else. I have a feeling that you would be acting differently if all the responses were positive. I have yet to see you say to anyone that has a favorable opinion that it is too early to form an opinion. Let's call a spade a spade, you're trying to sound diplomatic, but the truth is you only think it's too early to form an opinion unless it is a positive one. You can say I'm wrong, but I'm just judging by what has transpired in the pages of this thread.

Whew! Waiting till August with my opinions.

[HolyCrap]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I don't know if you were privy to this last month, but Ian came out and apologized to those who felt mislead for things falling off the development wheel. I could be wrong, but I'm thinking this year Ian and the blog makers will make sure if they blog something, it will be in the game. I hope I'm not wrong on that gut feeling. If I am, then shame on me.

EA has given me no reason to trust them so far so i will stay skeptical till the final product is released and i am able to make a definitive decision

[HolyCrap]

Quote: Originally Posted by N@X_WiZaRD

I remember seeing this same exact line referring to Madden 10. And we still saw it in the final game. So it'll be in Madden 11, guaranteed. Am I surprised? No, not really. The current animation system is intrinsically unrealistic. There's way too many stiff and awkward transitions between animations (which directly contribute to the ugly animation you referred to). The blending technology that EA constantly brings up simply DOES NOT WORK. It's like putting sprinkles and frosting on a piece of crap. Sure, it looks all shiny and colorful at first glance, but in the end, it's still smells. I suspect we're not going to get a major re-haul in animation technology until 2012 (at earliest) - after Back-Breaker. Until then, 2011 is going to look much like 2010 in movement. And again, you shouldn't be surprised. Ian and the crew aren't going to revolutionize their animation system until the market forces them to. And really, I don't blame them.

EA sports has reported a loss for a while now so unlikely they are willing to overhaul the the game...looks like we are stuck with the motion capture and animations that EA's gaming engine produces

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by HolyCrap

EA has given me no reason to trust them so far so i will stay skeptical till the final product is released and i am able to make a definitive decision

Never doubted that.

[KANE699]

I love the over reaction in this thread all because of one animation, lol.