Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - All About Gameplay

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

But franchise heads represent the minority. Madden doesn't make its money on franchise mode, it makes it on graphics, features and strong marketing. If franchise were their bread and butter they would've never been able to get by with it being so broken and feature-lacking as people say it's been all generation.

EA's view of things would have probably been different if it had competition from other publishers.

[sois]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

I'm not aware of that particular poll, but regardless that's just OS. OS is very influential but represents a tiny, tiny, tiiiiiiiny group of hardcore players compared to the overall Madden fanbase of millions who are very casual players who buy this game and plays franchise once if at all, and spends the rest of their time playing in Play Now or against friends. I totally understand the passion of those who are into franchise, but they tend to think they represent a much larger group than they actually do.

Do you have any research to back this up? OS is small but they at least run polls and collect data. Kotaku reported that people do not play online very much. It seems people might be playing offline franchise. I know that is the #1 reason I loved Madden.

[Exonerated]

Quote: Originally Posted by sois

Do you have any research to back this up? OS is small but they at least run polls and collect data. Kotaku reported that people do not play online very much. It seems people might be playing offline franchise. I know that is the #1 reason I loved Madden.

lol. Except they do.

[stux]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

I'm not aware of that particular poll, but regardless that's just OS. OS is very influential but represents a tiny, tiny, tiiiiiiiny group of hardcore players compared to the overall Madden fanbase of millions who are very casual players who buy this game and plays franchise once if at all, and spends the rest of their time playing in Play Now or against friends. I totally understand the passion of those who are into franchise, but they tend to think they represent a much larger group than they actually do. This is the part that leaves me scratching my head as well. I don't know how franchise modes can be looked at as more important than actually playing the game on the field. That boggles my mind. But franchise heads represent the minority. Madden doesn't make its money on franchise mode, it makes it on graphics, features and strong marketing. If franchise were their bread and butter they would've never been able to get by with it being so broken and feature-lacking as people say it's been all generation.

The only reason anyone I ever knew played madded was Franchise Mode offline. LONG LONG LONG before I ever knew about these forums I was happy in my own little world playing my Franchise.

The only reason I ever got involved with this crap was because offline franchise mode went to crap.

You have it ALL wrong. Most of the people that were involved with these sites where either online players OR tourney guys. THAT is where these sites came from.

Not from OFFLINE players. Remember they are OFFLINE players.

They aren't going to come to some site like this, they play the game OFFLINE.

My friends, family, my age and younger play offline franchise mode the majority of the time. Some of them play online at times as well but their focus is offline franchise mode. They aren't going to come to a site like this and post about what they feel would be meaning less crap. The buy then like it or don't. If they don't they stop buying. They don't come to a site and try and change it, they just stop buying it.

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by sois

Do you have any research to back this up? OS is small but they at least run polls and collect data. Kotaku reported that people do not play online very much. It seems people might be playing offline franchise. I know that is the #1 reason I loved Madden.

You can't look at a poll from one site and apply it to the whole. If anything, the polls collected here should be looked at as what the more hardcore fanbase thinks and that only, because that's what this site largely represents. Most people who buy this game never come online to talk about it.

As for research, EA collects that. And from it I've been told several things: hundreds of thousands of people sign in to play Madden online once and never come back again, the casual player is what's keeping their lights on, and specific market research tells them what feature expectations are driving their sales, and franchise is not at the top of that list. But I wouldn't have needed them to tell me that, all I have to do is look at how they've marketed this game. It's pretty obvious that offline franchise hasn't been a major focus of the last 5 games as their other features have been.

[Exonerated]

Quote: Originally Posted by stux

Are you high? The only reason anyone I ever knew played madded was Franchise Mode offline. LONG LONG LONG before I ever knew about these forums I was happy in my own little world playing my Franchise. The only reason I ever got involved with this crap was because offline franchise mode went to crap. You have it ALL wrong. Most of the people that were involved with these sites where either online players OR tourney guys. THAT is where these sites came from. Not from OFFLINE players. Remember they are OFFLINE players. They aren't going to come to some site like this, they play the game OFFLINE.

I have a pertinent theory that OFFLINE players are more likely to frequent forums. This is because the OFFLINE player cares about the intricacies of the game and really wants to discuss it with someone or lobby for change. For that reason, most of OS is OFFLINE players.

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

The MLB 2005 series had a much better implementation of setting prices and expenses. If Madden did something more like MLB 2005, I would be into it. For me, better (more accurate) roster management would be the thing. True IR, 80 man rosters with cut downs to a 53 man roster, with a scout team. There are a lot of other GM/Franchise features, but I'm not going to list everything.

I agree with that. I just didn't want to name everything I wanted in franchise mode.

[beastwork]

I used to play offline on the xbox. it bores me to tears on PS3. with M10 was strictly online