Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC East (ESPN)

[Johnny "Too Tall"]

Quote: Originally Posted by RnRexpress3423

I'm hoping this new OC opens it up a bit this year. Who are you going to replace him with? I personally would take Vince Young if he has his head on right, the guy knows how to win games. Just needs to stay out of the medicine cabinet. Other than that I love the defense this year and with Edds and Odrick back from injury, they just add depth to an already deep defense. Watch out for Vontae Davis and Sean Smith at the corner spots this year as they will be in WR's faces all game long. I just want them to rid themselves of Crowder. He talks the talk but can't walk the walk. Doesn't force fumbles or get sacks, he does nothing but get some tackles here and there when he's not injured or talking trash.

No way to Vince Young, agree with everything else you said. Look at Young's numbers compared to Hennes their first 2 seasons playing. Hennes numbers were actually slightly better...sure Young has had a couple of decent seasons, particularly last year, but I think that has as much to do with this other guy in the backfield defenses were focusing a little bit more attention on...kinda helps having a guy who can rush for 2,000 yds to take some pressure off you. I wonder if defenses were selling out to stop the run last year....Young wouldn't have that luxury in Miami.

[RnRexpress3423]

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny "Too Tall"

No way to Vince Young, agree with everything else you said. Look at Young's numbers compared to Hennes their first 2 seasons playing. Hennes numbers were actually slightly better...sure Young has had a couple of decent seasons, particularly last year, but I think that has as much to do with this other guy in the backfield defenses were focusing a little bit more attention on...kinda helps having a guy who can rush for 2,000 yds to take some pressure off you. I wonder if defenses were selling out to stop the run last year....Young wouldn't have that luxury in Miami.

Man I just pray that Chad Henne plays lights out this year and we won't even have to talk about Vince Young or getting any QB for that matter. I'll never forget Donte Whitner from the Bills saying that Brandon Marshall was basically running the same routes that Ted Ginn used to run when he was on the Fins. We need to switch it up and I hope Daboll really implements some new kind of offense. We need to pound the rock and then that will open up Henne on those playaction passes. The o-line should be improved with pouncey at center, I am just concerned about Carey with the back injury. LETS GO FINS!! First game on MNF I cant wait, just sucks I have to wait a day longer than everyone else lol.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny "Too Tall"

No way to Vince Young, agree with everything else you said. Look at Young's numbers compared to Hennes their first 2 seasons playing. Hennes numbers were actually slightly better...sure Young has had a couple of decent seasons, particularly last year, but I think that has as much to do with this other guy in the backfield defenses were focusing a little bit more attention on...kinda helps having a guy who can rush for 2,000 yds to take some pressure off you. I wonder if defenses were selling out to stop the run last year....Young wouldn't have that luxury in Miami.

Yeah... except Young was winning games in Tennessee (a 17-11 record in 2 years) before Tennessee even drafted CJ2K.

I think Vince and Tarvaris have sort of gotten a bad rep (rap? lol) because of the fact that their numbers aren't pretty, but they bring things to the offense that other QBs don't bring, and they've both done a pretty nice job of getting W's and have also improved as passers in their careers.

[bmj2k7]

I would add Brandon Spikes to the 80+ rating club, b4 he was suspended 4 games, he was on pace for 100 tackle season, and had a 82 rating i think. Better be at work EA, with Chad Ochocinco and Albert Hanyesworth on NE, and possibly Osi Umenyoira soon, Reggie Bush and soon Kyle Orton a Dolphin, The Bills lost there Mlb and the Jets haven't done much, haven't resigned Edwards, and Cromartie and doesn't look like there going to, there not landing Nnambi but atleast they got Holmes back. EA has there work cut out for them just for this division!

[bedwardsroy19]

Quote: Originally Posted by PaPZ187

Possible 80+ rated Patriot Players QB Brady WR Welker WR Branch TE Gronkowski TE Hernandez RB Green Ellis RB Woodhead G Mankins K Gostkowski T Light T Vollmer C Koppen S Merryweather S Chung CB McCourty ILB Mayo NT Wilfork DE Warren CB Bodden DT Stroud While I cant say I would agree with all of these guys rated 80s and above, this is my best guess at who they could be, and I still dont have 20 of them, maybe missing a lineman or two and possibly a linebacker.

I wouldn't be surprised if Zoltan Mesko was an 80.

I would be surprised if Leigh Bodden was

[TalenT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

Yeah... except Young was winning games in Tennessee (a 17-11 record in 2 years) before Tennessee even drafted CJ2K. I think Vince and Tarvaris have sort of gotten a bad rep (rap? lol) because of the fact that their numbers aren't pretty, but they bring things to the offense that other QBs don't bring, and they've both done a pretty nice job of getting W's and have also improved as passers in their careers.

I agree. Say what you want about VY...the guy wins ball games, but all this talk is for naught. The damn Eagles picked him up! :-(

Matt Moore though? IDK about that one. I'll be starting Henne no doubt.

[Johnny "Too Tall"]

Quote: Originally Posted by TalenT

I agree. Say what you want about VY...the guy wins ball games, but all this talk is for naught. The damn Eagles picked him up! :-( Matt Moore though? IDK about that one. I'll be starting Henne no doubt.

I'm not sayin hes not a decent player or that he doesn't have potential, but to say vince young is the reason they won those games is incorrect. Football is the ultimate team game. Vince Young didn't win those games, the titans did. Lookin at the stats its pretty clear he wasn't the reason they were winning.

The ravens won a superbowl with trent dilfer but I don't think anyone concluded he was a big part of that. Trent dilfer didn't win the superbowl the ravens did.

There's a reason he was benched last year and has now accepted a backup role....

[PaPZ187]

Quote: Originally Posted by PaPZ187

Possible 80+ rated Patriot Players QB Brady WR Welker WR Branch (77) TE Gronkowski TE Hernandez RB Green Ellis RB Woodhead G Mankins K Gostkowski T Light T Vollmer C Koppen S Merryweather S Chung CB McCourty ILB Mayo NT Wilfork DE Warren CB Bodden DT Stroud While I cant say I would agree with all of these guys rated 80s and above, this is my best guess at who they could be, and I still dont have 20 of them, maybe missing a lineman or two and possibly a linebacker.

Quote: Originally Posted by CajunPunk

I lol'ed. loled

Quote: Originally Posted by Palo20

Forget it. Yeah Woodhead shouldn't be an 80

Quote: Originally Posted by boogeyman12

oh and that NE list.. bodden, chung, branch -- NO, to me.. and stroud fell off alot since being a jag.. & TE aaron has a ton of POTENTIAL but he's more a 78 ish probably with 'A' potential probably

Not bad, out of the 20 players I guessed were atleast an 80 overall and up I was correct about 19 of them, the only one I was incorrect about was Branch who is a 77 overall.

The other 80+ I didnt name were HB Morris 81 and RE Wright 84. Like I said before, I dont agree that all those players should be 80+, I was just guessing who I thought EA had at 80+ ovr.

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