The more I read about Madden 12...

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by guaps

Just played a game (the demo) using only the QB sneak glitch (Goalline formation) and the pump fake glitch (usually from Ace or Shotgun spread formation) on All-Pro - slow speed, 35 speed threshold. Controlled the offense both ways against a CPU defense. Stats after the game - Could have thrown for gain on a lot of the plays, but the purpose was to test QB sneaks and scrambling. Aaron Rodgers - 16 rushes, 118 yards, 1 TD. Had 3 fumbles (1 lost). Jay Cutler - 21 rushes, 141 yards, 1 TD. Had 2 fumbles (0 lost).

Why? What are you attempting to prove here?

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Why? What are you attempting to prove here?

I think to prove that QB scrambles pick up a ton of yards. I thought I saw AJ post that was fixed in the retail version vs the demo version.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

It's a natural problem, because the gap is right there and it's such a quick hitting play, and the QB acc.. is out of whack. Solution to me is have the QB sneak play out with the auto dive no matter what D is lined up. Not sure if EA will implement this, as I believe this has been an issue for some time. Tough to call this a game killer though if you are as most here claim to be, a sim player, or sim balla as the kids like to say.

In an offline franchise, I don't see the CPU ever calling a QB sneak on first and 10. If it's not really a problem on GL or short yardage, than this could be livable.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I think to prove that QB scrambles pick up a ton of yards. I thought I saw AJ post that was fixed in the retail version vs the demo version.

Not sure.. Is there a patch fix list out?

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Not sure.. Is there a patch fix list out?

I haven't seen one, I haven't even heard if there is a day one patch?

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

In an offline franchise, I don't see the CPU ever calling a QB sneak on first and 10. If it's not really a problem on GL or short yardage, than this could be livable.

The only time this should really be an issue is if someone decides to abuse it, say online.

For me, I rarely play online, and when I do it's against people I know so things like this aren't an issue.

For the offline franchiser like myself this is a non-issue, and not the franchise killer some were describing it to be.

I think if they address the wonky QB accel. stuff this will be negated as well.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I haven't seen one, I haven't even heard if there is a day one patch?

I could have sworn I read there was a day one patch... Maybe I was hallucinating.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChiTownKid

I never mentioned using it on 1st and 10. I said legit, non-abusive situations. Like 4th & goal on the 1, or 4th and inches anywhere else. I'm saying that it's a guarantee to pick up that short yardage, so, with that knowledge, ANY use of the play is glitching, even when you want to do it PROPERLY. Understand?

I think we can put this argument to bed now.