Beware The Ides Of March For The NFL Exclusive License

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Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

This discussion is pretty much pointless unfortunately. EA will never relinquish the license and the NFL is perfectly content with the situation. Expect another long term partnership to be announced. Don't bother setting yourself up for disappointment. Quality NFL gaming died in 2005.

Well, I agree. Unfortunately it is what it is. EA and NFL partnering together is a good deal for both of them just the way it is...so why should they change it? Why? That's really the only perspective that matters. Anything else is "pie in the sky." I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is.

What's always missing from these type of discussions is someone explaining how changing the current setup benefits BOTH the NFL and EA. Listen to Taz, don't get your hopes up for a change.

[Stampede_94]

Back on topic, what is it going to take to make EA AND the NFL see that this product does not represent the experience we see on any gameday or night, and is just pretty much the same thing season after season. A feature they removed two years ago and try to bring back disguised as "innovation" is pretty much all they are doing and expect us to eat it up like they care.

Ultimate team is my biggest gripe of them all because it's force fed to us in our games and I hate it to no end. The game should be a separate purchase and left at that. The dept of the actual game of Madden has become a kids plastic wading pool.

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stampede_94

Back on topic, what is it going to take to make EA AND the NFL see that this product does not represent the experience we see on any gameday or night, and is just pretty much the same thing season after season.

Some combination of poor sales, poor reviews, and bad publicity - none of which exist right now. In other words, something which actually damages the NFL; complaints of an extremely vocal minority about subjective quality, regardless of their validity, aren't going to have much effect as to how the NFL does its business if they're making money and their brand is protected.

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Ultimate team is my biggest gripe of them all because it's force fed to us in our games and I hate it to no end. The game should be a separate purchase and left at that. The dept of the actual game of Madden has become a kids plastic wading pool.

Not sure how MUT, a distinct feature, hurts the depth of Madden given that more well-rounded features generally means more depth in a game. Not sure also how it's forced-fed either, as I haven't had to touch MUT to do anything I've wanted to do in Madden since MUT's debut in M10. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if a free-to-play downloadable version of MUT - basically a download-only version of Madden without Play Now, CCM, Online Team-Up, etc. - eventually saw the light of day. It'd get a highly-successful game mode in more people's hands by virtue of being truly free-to-play/pay-to-win (compared to the $60 cost of entry now), and thus get more money to EA.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stampede_94

Back on topic, what is it going to take to make EA AND the NFL see that this product does not represent the experience we see on any gameday or night, and is just pretty much the same thing season after season. A feature they removed two years ago and try to bring back disguised as "innovation" is pretty much all they are doing and expect us to eat it up like they care. Ultimate team is my biggest gripe of them all because it's force fed to us in our games and I hate it to no end. The game should be a separate purchase and left at that. The dept of the actual game of Madden has become a kids plastic wading pool.

I just don't get what you mean by MUT being force fed to us. I haven't spent one dime on the feature because I ignore it.

[Stampede_94]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I just don't get what you mean by MUT being force fed to us. I haven't spent one dime on the feature because I ignore it.

It's in the game I purchased. I don't feel it should even be in the retail game taking up space. MUT is just another fishing tool for micro transactions and that is where it goes wrong. EA is all about the almighty dollar and not about innovation. If they came up with things to keep us interested as much as they came up with excuses, then we might be in store for a great game.

After all these years I just don't buy that THIS is the NFL on a game console. So much more could and should be done. My last straw this season was the oh so realistic endzones from the Superbowl Madden Moments... Green endzones? Those of us who have done any type of game modding know how hard it ISN'T to get things done.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stampede_94

It's in the game I purchased. I don't feel it should even be in the retail game taking up space. MUT is just another fishing tool for micro transactions and that is where it goes wrong. EA is all about the almighty dollar and not about innovation. If they came up with things to keep us interested as much as they came up with excuses, then we might be in store for a great game. After all these years I just don't buy that THIS is the NFL on a game console. So much more could and should be done.

That's fine if a gamer feels that way, but, from a financial standpoint, it's a money maker. If something makes money for a company, they will keep it. If not, they won't.

It's the wave of the now and the future.

[Stampede_94]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

That's fine if a gamer feels that way, but, from a financial standpoint, it's a money maker. If something makes money for a company, they will keep it. If not, they won't. It's the wave of the now and the future.

It's not even part of Madden, it's a game within a game that actually costs money to be successful at all the while the game itself lacks in so many ways. The people they have working on MUT could be contributing to updating the core game itself with what's needed and no we don't need to go down that road. The product right now will be hyped on nothing but the fact it's the 25th anniversary and guaranteed we will see the same out of them with more excuses and the fact they have now begun to focus on the PS4, rinse and repeat another decade.

[Crimsontide27]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

Some combination of poor sales, poor reviews, and bad publicity - none of which exist right now. In other words, something which actually damages the NFL; complaints of an extremely vocal minority about subjective quality, regardless of their validity, aren't going to have much effect as to how the NFL does its business if they're making money and their brand is protected.

And sites such as this only enable them to get away with it, as well as many others.