Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

[mwjr]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

14 will be somewhat telling as there will be no excuses or justifications. I hope it gets worked out because I'd really like to be excited about CCM.

I just get so frustrated because we hear this or say this every year...

Madden 10 will be telling. There will be no more excuses.

Madden 11 will be the measuring stick. There really won't be any excuses.

Madden 12 has to be perfect. They've worked on it so much, they have no room for excuses.

I think we tend to give them too much leeway, personally. I don't profess to know the intricacies of designing a video game, but at what point does a consumer just give up?

I quit buying Madden and NCAA on day 1 a long time ago. Now, it's been since Madden 09/NCAA 09 that I even owned a game. I really want to get sucked back in, but I just can't justify blindly spending $40, $50 or $60 on these like I did 10 years ago.

EDIT: I take it back. I owned Madden 09 and NCAA 10, but that's been it.

[slick589]

I know for me if they said "we took away player editing but we made sure every player in the games has the correct equipment and rookies wont have ridiculously unrealistic equipment any more. We took away 32 team control but we vastly improved ai logic so they dont make bone headed unrealistic decisions any more. We took away couch co op bc....well that was a big mistake but it will def be in next year " I cOuld deal with the limitations for the year.

But they just took things out and offered no explanations besides not enough time. I cant help but feel they removed those things simply because the wanted to, it was a design decision and in no way an oversight.

Take away player editing so people are forced to use our roster and purchase the next madden. Take away couch co op so people are forced tO buy multiple games per household if the want to play ccm together.

[TeamBuilder]

Quote: Originally Posted by slick589

I know for me if they said "we took away player editing but we made sure every player in the games has the correct equipment and rookies wont have ridiculously unrealistic equipment any more. We took away 32 team control but we vastly improved ai logic so they dont make bone headed unrealistic decisions any more. We took away couch co op bc....well that was a big mistake but it will def be in next year " I cOuld deal with the limitations for the year. But they just took things out and offered no explanations besides not enough time. I cant help but feel they removed those things simply because the wanted to, it was a design decision and in no way an oversight. Take away player editing so people are forced to use our roster and purchase the next madden. Take away couch co op so people are forced tO buy multiple games per household if the want to play ccm together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvqzHvS2Io

Madden 12 video from last year. "Edit Players" at the 1:30 mark...

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by mwjr

I just get so frustrated because we hear this or say this every year... Madden 10 will be telling. There will be no more excuses. Madden 11 will be the measuring stick. There really won't be any excuses. Madden 12 has to be perfect. They've worked on it so much, they have no room for excuses. I think we tend to give them too much leeway, personally. I don't profess to know the intricacies of designing a video game, but at what point does a consumer just give up? I quit buying Madden and NCAA on day 1 a long time ago. Now, it's been since Madden 09/NCAA 09 that I even owned a game. I really want to get sucked back in, but I just can't justify blindly spending $40, $50 or $60 on these like I did 10 years ago. EDIT: I take it back. I owned Madden 09 and NCAA 10, but that's been it.

lol... I give too much leeway according to one side and too much criticism according to the other. I guess that means I'm right.

Jokes aside, I get what you're saying, but I'm simply speaking to 14 being telling for Connected Careers Mode, not the game at large. EA supposedly built it "from the ground up" and EA, game changers, and anybody who is more positive about EA says that this, that, or the other missing feature will be back.

If CCM is supposed to eliminate the competition for resources between the game's career modes since they now share the same feature set, then 14 will be the first year where that should benefit us and we shouldn't run into issues of there "not being enough time" for fairly standard features to be in. That is what I mean by telling.

As for giving them leeway, I don't know what to tell you there. I'm willing to acknowledge that this is the first year of CCM, that's all. Even with that concession, I'm still not buying the game (Madden 13) and have been highly critical of what was not included in CCM. Beyond that, there is nothing a consumer can constructively do.

[bukktown]

I am a bit apprehensive about how this mode will turn out. Especially with the horrendous track record of Tiburon and the prevalence of glitches that have become the norm in this day and age.

[Ueauvan]

i hate being told how good something is, by the person who is selling it

i hate being told how to play a game, the way the person who is selling it thinks i should play it

i hate being given something on the one hand and several important things taken away by the other, and then told i will like it

[scoop]

After buying madden every year since its inception, I am done with this game and will no longer buy. I feel they are disloyal to me to screw with all offline franchise options that have been IN THE GAME and are now not available. Roster and schedule control is what I want.

[mwjr]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

lol... I give too much leeway according to one side and too much criticism according to the other. I guess that means I'm right. Jokes aside, I get what you're saying, but I'm simply speaking to 14 being telling for Connected Careers Mode, not the game at large. EA supposedly built it "from the ground up" and EA, game changers, and anybody who is more positive about EA says that this, that, or the other missing feature will be back. If CCM is supposed to eliminate the competition for resources between the game's career modes since they now share the same feature set, then 14 will be the first year where that should benefit us and we shouldn't run into issues of there "not being enough time" for fairly standard features to be in. That is what I mean by telling. As for giving them leeway, I don't know what to tell you there. I'm willing to acknowledge that this is the first year of CCM, that's all. Even with that concession, I'm still not buying the game (Madden 13) and have been highly critical of what was not included in CCM. Beyond that, there is nothing a consumer can constructively do.

Vaild points all around.

And just to clarify, I didn't mean that to come off as if I were targetting only you.