Madden 13 Graphics downgrade?

[aghalem]

I thought it was very dark. On deep passes it was hard for me to tell sometimes between the offensive and defensive players.

[SageInfinite]

The game would look amazing if it had Madden 12's presentation.

[MadManCometh]

Quote: Originally Posted by icicle22

I have to agree that on the default camera, there seems to be a slight "smudgy" look to the players. It's almost like a lack of detail or definined edges to the models. Even the names below the players aren't as crisp as before. On closeups it looks great, but there is something not quite right about the default camera that "dumbs" it down just a bit. Which is normal in most games where the engine subs in simpler textures when the camera is further away, it's just very noticable in the demo. Madden 12 definitely looked a little sharper from the same angle. We'll see when the Retail drops if this continues...

Thank you!! Someone finally seeing things exactly the way I do. Close-up replays and Internet pics look great. But no one can tell me that the in-game graphics while playing the game looks better than '12. And I know it's not my tv because I have one of the best Tv's out. I agree with everything you said here. Hopefully it's just the demo.


But one thing I've notice about some people. Whatever is newest they think is better. Just because it's the latest don't mean it's better.

[MMurda]

Quote: Originally Posted by btemp

In the demo, I had a HUGE!!! problem with lighting. I have an HDTV (if it matters) and when playing the Redskins the lighting was so off they're jerseys looked black. And I know I wasn't the only one as I posted about it and a number of other people had the same problem.

i heard ppl saying that. i did notice they had alot of shadow at fed ex which i noticed in my 1st game...but on my tv their jerseys werent "black" as some of u guys are stating. and i def had no prob telling who was the seahawks and who was the skins players. maybe it has to do with ur tv settings? maybe u dont have enough brightness. i could even see the detail of the skins helmets shining in cutscenes...dunno what to call it but it was like a pearl or bowling ball type effect in the paint. looked slick.

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

The game would look amazing if it had Madden 12's presentation.

i agree dude. the first thing i said when i saw the intros this yr was i hope they didnt scrap all that good presentation from last yr with the runouts and all those "DCam" angles they filmed the game with. woulda been nice to mix up and have u not know what intro you'd get and from what angle. they should continue to add depth not scrap after one yr...thats why we constantly have no depth.

i did see some of those things like how when u score, they go down the sideline from diff angles to zoom in on the player who just scored. im salty tho that they dumped all those cool intros. i need retail to see how much other camera work pre and post play they scrapped. already heard they dumped the walkup to the line view....that was sweet and was there since at least '10..very dissaptd at that one. i kit my linemen out and like seeing em walk up to the line all geared up and looking like beast.

Quote: Originally Posted by MadManCometh

Thank you!! Someone finally seeing things exactly the way I do. Close-up replays and Internet pics look great. But no one can tell me that the in-game graphics while playing the game looks better than '12. And I know it's not my tv because I have one of the best Tv's out. I agree with everything you said here. Hopefully it's just the demo. But one thing I've notice about some people. Whatever is newest they think is better. Just because it's the latest don't mean it's better.

i myself arent jocking it cuz its new for the record...i did in fact see better detailed player models and graphics as compared to '12. like i said earlier in the thread...i play '12 almost daily so i have a fresh picture of '12 to compare '13 to. the lighting does make it look diff but i think in a good way. the blur effect does stink it up a lil bit tho but not enough for me to say graphics dropped off as i can clearly see when the blur kicks in and gets a lil wonky. i hear u that u have a super nice tv but what about settings? maybe u dont have enough brightness in ur settings. i dont like my tv super bright but u gotta have it just right or itll look dark hazy and gloomy on certain games. same with color settings being important.

now to add a lil detail i am playing demo on xbox vs playing '12 on ps3. i wonder if system matters for what ppl are seeing as i do remember ppl saying last yr xbox had more color compared to ps3. what system are u and others that see the skins jerseys being "black" playing m13 on? maybe its another ps3 issue like last yr? also we gotta remember that this is a small demo with unoptimized graphics and textures to save space of the dwnld. thats probably some of it too.

[SteboSSK]

The last thing wrong with Madden is the graphics. The details of the players is the main issue. The lack of real player faces for alot of prominent players, players with dreads all have that stupid mini ponytail and coaches look ridiculous.

[MMurda]

yea the coaches look odd like gorilla ppl or something. they have no necks and big chest and big heads. they look even funnier than last yrs coaches. and rg3's dreads clip thru the back of his helmet if i wanna nitpick it a bit. im not trippin tho...the game looks great to me. they need to lock in the graphics and leave em alone til next consoles honestly now they got the ncaa lighting in and just gameplay gameplay gameplay and further enhancing the modes.

[btemp]

Quote: Originally Posted by MMurda

i heard ppl saying that. i did notice they had alot of shadow at fed ex which i noticed in my 1st game...but on my tv their jerseys werent "black" as some of u guys are stating. and i def had no prob telling who was the seahawks and who was the skins players. maybe it has to do with ur tv settings? maybe u dont have enough brightness. i could even see the detail of the skins helmets shining in cutscenes...dunno what to call it but it was like a pearl or bowling ball type effect in the paint. looked slick.

Not my TV, because this is only a problem with Madden 13, not any other game (M12 included) or tv show or movie. Maybe it's fixed in the retail game, but it'll be difficult to tell unless someone who's had the same problem says its fixed.

[icicle22]

I played Madden 12 just before the demo, both on XBOX on a high end Sharp LCD and there is a definite dropoff in sharpness from the main camera view. Like I said...it looks "smudgey" if you will. This term is derived from a photoshop tool that you can use to make photos or images look almost painted....or it can be used to blend 2 objects together as if smudging paint.

To be clear, it doesn't look awful....but it feels like a minor step back. At least on the demo from the default view. Perhaps the Retail will be better? With no replays in the demo and no other camera views available it is hard to tell if this will improve as we get closer to the models.