Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by SA1NT401

Spot on.... Exactly how I feel. it honestly is Sorta embarrassing that they are porting 90% of the current gen and then state they have been working tirelessly for TWO YEARS! On what exactly? Couldn't build a new game that LOOKS NOTHING LIKE WHAT WE HAVE HAD FOR THE LAST 7 YEARS!!! Same animations.... Check Stupid throwing motions.... Check Stale atmosphere.... Check Robotic animations... Check New tech with STRICT limitations.... Check Same playbooks... Check Same gameplay legacy issues.... I'm assuming CHECK!

Stale Atmosphere- huh? Crowd standing on a long pass, crowd cheering and standing for home defense on third down.

Same Pass Blocking?
Same Upfield Rush from DE.....CG never had one
Same Pocket Formation
Same AI?
Same Player Sense?

[Pared]

Can't wait to try this game out. A truly next-gen experience. I will enjoy not playing and just using a replay to view and the new blades of grass and the shifting of helmets.

I need to dive in the end zone with the same animation for over 5 years now. On pins and needles here.

I'm counting the days down.

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Stale Atmosphere- huh? Crowd standing on a long pass, crowd cheering and standing for home defense on third down. Same Pass Blocking? Same Upfield Rush from DE.....CG never had one Same Pocket Formation Same AI? Same Player Sense?

Madden usually sounds good conceptually (player sense, improved AI, better pass blocking, etc) but the track record for proper implementation and functionality has been consistently poor.

I had to laugh when you mentioned the home crowd cheering for the D on third down. All I could think of is the home crowds on M25 booing a challenge that is decided in their favor, as happens ALL THE TIME.

I will reserve final judgement until they can showcase the finished product (hopefully minus the legacy issues as well) but I remain highly skeptical.

I will say that the living worlds trailer they released went beyond my low expectations based on the information that was previously showcased and dissected here. Perhaps there are more small surprises in store.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Stale Atmosphere- huh? Crowd standing on a long pass, crowd cheering and standing for home defense on third down. Same Pass Blocking? Same Upfield Rush from DE.....CG never had one Same Pocket Formation Same AI? Same Player Sense?

I will vouch for the noticeable improvements in pass blocking. I said so in my post. The rest of the stuff you mentioned is exactly point. I don't see the crowd when I'm trying to weave my way to the goal line. Player Sense, to me, is just yet another EA buzzword until I see a TANGIBLE impact on the gameplay. To me, all it tells me is that the AI engineers are using less efficient algorithms. For now. Again, we will see. I'm not arguing your post. I'm just saying that outside of the pass blocking, the advancements that I would have hoped to be made I this next gen are not currently on the menu. I see of lot of features to improve the experience overall. But the components that are a block for me are not there.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

I will vouch for the noticeable improvements in pass blocking. I said so in my post. The rest of the stuff you mentioned is exactly point. I don't see the crowd when I'm trying to weave my way to the goal line. Player Sense, to me, is just yet another EA buzzword until I see a TANGIBLE impact on the gameplay. To me, all it tells me is that the AI engineers are using less efficient algorithms. For now. Again, we will see. I'm not arguing your post. I'm just saying that outside of the pass blocking, the advancements that I would have hoped to be made I this next gen are not currently on the menu. I see of lot of features to improve the experience overall. But the components that are a block for me are not there.

Understand completely, I need to see for myself the extra things I included. Hearing the interview a few weeks ago, I think we are a few years away from a true NFL experience, in my book, but, at least there is a time frame to set sights on.