Slider Advice/Dont want to give up

[Bobhead]

There isn't really a difference in opinion. TNK saw the same things I was seeing. The difference is he/she solved it by switching to Timing, and I chose to solve it by lowering the pitcher consistency sliders... I assume you are playing with Zone? I urge you to try my suggestion, but it's not necessary at all.

Note that while TNK recommends keeping the CPU pitching in the 6's, he/she also keeps the user offensive sliders in the same place, a more competent batter and a more competent pitcher equals roughly the same thing: a game of baseball. It's all relative, as long as the competitive advantage remains the same. You could up all the pitching and offense sliders to 10, and you wouldn't really change a thing, except for strikeouts.

The biggest thing I want to stress to you though is that sliders really aren't that big of a deal. "The opposite direction" really only consists of like a 3 or 4 point difference in sliders, and the sliders are not very sensitive anyway, so TNK, myself, and whoever else with a third preference for their 3 pitching sliders - I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 of us finished a season with almost identical stats.

Don't get so caught up in the sliders, just play the game. I adjust my sliders all the time, but it's not something I stress over. It's more my curiosity that keeps me constantly tinkering, but to be honest my game was pretty balanced months ago.

[crques]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

There isn't really a difference in opinion. TNK saw the same things I was seeing. The difference is he/she solved it by switching to Timing, and I chose to solve it by lowering the pitcher consistency sliders... I assume you are playing with Zone? I urge you to try my suggestion, but it's not necessary at all. Note that while TNK recommends keeping the CPU pitching in the 6's, he/she also keeps the user offensive sliders in the same place, a more competent batter and a more competent pitcher equals roughly the same thing: a game of baseball. It's all relative, as long as the competitive advantage remains the same. You could up all the pitching and offense sliders to 10, and you wouldn't really change a thing, except for strikeouts. The biggest thing I want to stress to you though is that sliders really aren't that big of a deal. "The opposite direction" really only consists of like a 3 or 4 point difference in sliders, and the sliders are not very sensitive anyway, so TNK, myself, and whoever else with a third preference for their 3 pitching sliders - I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 of us finished a season with almost identical stats. Don't get so caught up in the sliders, just play the game. I adjust my sliders all the time, but it's not something I stress over. It's more my curiosity that keeps me constantly tinkering, but to be honest my game was pretty balanced months ago.

I'm actually using Timing. I've been toying with my sliders for 2 weeks now trying to find something that I'm comfortable with. Unfortunately, I am one of those that stress and obsess with them. What's even worse for me is that with my job, and family, my gaming time is very limited. I'm lucky to get in 2 or 3 games per week so I waste a lof my gaming time in the slider tweaking department rather than actually playing the game itself. It's a bad rut that I seem to always get myself into sooner or later when playing a game. I can say that the set I'm currently using has been pretty realistic to me the 3 games that I've played with them though. Maybe I'm finally getting somewhere.

[HustlinOwl]

Quote: Originally Posted by crques

I'm actually using Timing. I've been toying with my sliders for 2 weeks now trying to find something that I'm comfortable with. Unfortunately, I am one of those that stress and obsess with them. What's even worse for me is that with my job, and family, my gaming time is very limited. I'm lucky to get in 2 or 3 games per week so I waste a lof my gaming time in the slider tweaking department rather than actually playing the game itself. It's a bad rut that I seem to always get myself into sooner or later when playing a game. I can say that the set I'm currently using has been pretty realistic to me the 3 games that I've played with them though. Maybe I'm finally getting somewhere.

dude 3 games, baseball you need to play a minimum of 30. Glad I settled on a set a long time ago about to enter the playoffs of year 2 in my franchise

[crques]

Quote: Originally Posted by HustlinOwl

dude 3 games, baseball you need to play a minimum of 30. Glad I settled on a set a long time ago about to enter the playoffs of year 2 in my franchise

LOL.......some of it has to do with slider tweaking, but for the most part I'm limited on free time. I have a wife, a 3 year old, and a 1 year old, and I work 45-50 hours per week at the office and a few more from home. My free time normally comes after 10:00 at night and by that time I'm usually too tired to do anything but go to bed. I'm 35 now. I can't function on 2 hours of sleep like I used to be able to before the kids. LOL

[nickaepi]

Stick with it buddy. I had the same problem you did. This is one of the few games I can only play effectively when I'm fully awake and "focused", otherwise I do not play well. The sliders you have posted are good and should produce realistic results.

IMHO, lowering pitch speed solves a lot problems, when it comes to hitting in this game, if you are struggling at the plate. I realized I was late on almost all of my fastballs, especially righty vs. righty so I lowered pitch speed to 3. It's not a huge difference from 5 but for me I can at least read the pitches better and react if I should be swinging or not. I don't consider it 'cheating' because my reflexes just don't match up to 5 pitch speed anymore and the CPU obviously is not effected by this.

If you start going into "slider hell", you will never come out and you will end up trading the game in. Stick with what you got and play full games only when you feel focused and fully-awake and relaxed.

I play on timing so I still feel rewarded when I am patient and swing at good pitches but also I get realistic results because it is heavy player-ratings based on timing.

If pitch speed is not the issue and you want to have more "fun" and less hardcore realism (which I know can be controller-throwing frustrating at times), I suggest zone-hitting. (Turn off guess-pitch and use power swing very sparingly) Just sharing my input. This game can be brutal at times, especially when cpu confidence gets "jesus" high. lol

GL and stick with it!

[Heroesandvillains]

Quote: Originally Posted by nickaepi

IMHO, lowering pitch speed solves a lot problems, when it comes to hitting in this game, if you are struggling at the plate. I realized I was late on almost all of my fastballs, especially righty vs. righty so I lowered pitch speed to 3. It's not a huge difference from 5 but for me I can at least read the pitches better and react if I should be swinging or not. I don't consider it 'cheating' because my reflexes just don't match up to 5 pitch speed anymore and the CPU obviously is not effected by this.

I have my pitch speed at 2, and am officially a Default HOF'er again (minus my error and steal slider tweaks).

Enough cannot be said about dropping this slider first before anything.

JUST when I begin the get furious about the CPU's black-painting ability, I'll do what I did last night (two games) and BB 5 and 6 times.

I'm not suggesting Default is right for everybody. I've only recently built my abilities up enough to turn those "4's" back into "5's." I'm just saying, without the ability to control how fast the ball comes in, there would be no way in Hell that I'd be able to compete on HOF. Pitches are just TOO close to the black too frequently.

Dropping the Pitch Speed has helped me on this front.

[Vashyron.]

I don't understand how people play at default or higher pitch speed, I'm currently using a pitch speed of 2 using the wide offset cam (which I just switched to a few games back and really makes turning on inside pitches a bit easier). Yes, I use zone hitting, but even when I would sit on an inside fastball at default pitch speed, it was way too hard to pull. To me, that's not baseball, inside pitches should be pulled more often than not. I should not have to decide before the pitch to swing to pull an inside fastball. And, it's not input lag as I'm still using a SDTV. If anyone has still has 09, put that in and see how much better the swing speed is, it's much faster allowing for you to turn on those inside pitches in a much more realistic fashion. 09 IMO had the best swing speed in the whole series.

[nezff]

I played the game out of the box and liked it but just wasnt getting alot of offense. Granted I swung at alot of crappy pitches. So I moved contact, timing, and solid hits up to 6. It helped alot. I also got somewhat more patient at the plate. I use zone hitting and play on veteran. Since my new patience, im hitting the ball out of the park actually too much. Ive tried playing on all star, but for some reason, I just get slow rollers or pop outs. I cant seem to get the hang of all star hitting.