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Old 05-28-2012, 02:32 PM   #33
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Re: Franchise Questions (draft related)

Biggest issue with letting the CPU do the scouting is they don't move on from a scout until every category is unlocked. If you do it manually you can move on as soon as u see the potential (or any relevant stats you would like), thereby allowing you to scout an insane amount more players than the CPU can for you.
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:44 PM   #34
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Wow, that's incredible.

What is your plan for properly developing guys?

Also, what's the story behind that A potential player you drafted that didn't turn out well?


Its hard to describe my set plan. I take players with good tools or potential and press them into situations that will benifit those tools. I will usually take my top prospects (not minor league place holders) and lay out a development plan for them that will detail what they will do in the minors to develop them. Here are two examples.

Mike Montgomery (currently AAA) (A potential)
Year 1- 180 innings limit in AAA as #1 starter
Year 2- Try to collect at least 75 innings in AAA before the All star break then promotion to MLB where he will serve as first #5
Year 3- If good spring then promote to #3 starter and give a 200 IP limit.
Year 4-If performs well in MLB Then try as #1 starter in spring, if all goes well he will break camp in the #1 spot. If not then #2 for half the year then promo to #1
Planned arrival at full potential should be 2016

Wil Myers-
(Currently in AA) (A potential)
Year 1-Play in AA and split each half of the season in left and right (not in center because if we developed him there he will block Bubba Starling's plan)
Year 2-Put into AAA if performance is good in AA. Have in play every game in whichever position he performed best at.
Year 3- Put into MLB camp and see how he fares. If he performs well, then start in MLB. AAA Fall Back Plan-Send to AAA to collect 250 at bats then promote him to MLB any time after that based on performance. MLB Plan- Start in Right Field (or left if Gordon is gone) and play whole year there.
Year 4- Move to Left Field if available then play whole year there.
Planned arrival at full potential should be 2016

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Stats-
Are helpful but they don't tell the whole story of how a player performs. I once had a player who was hitting .196 and I watched him and he seemed to absolutely kill the ball. I promoted him to AAA where he hit .300 and then went to the Mlb the following year and hit 600 career home runs.
Instead of just seeing whos hot, go down to the minor league teams and go into manage mode. Watch the players and even try to test them to see how good they are.
Extensions- I love pulling these. They are EXTREMELY HIGH RISK. However when a players draft contract is up then that is the time to get an EXTREMELY CLUB FRIENDLY DEAL. I once signed Bubba Starling to a 10 YEAR deal worth a grand total of 5,000,000.
Not every prospect is a sure thing

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The A potential player that didn't turn out to well was partially my fault. He got hurt so many times that he was shuttled from one rehab assignment to another. He never faced a consistent competition group. He never even was able to meet half the criteria for advancement and strayed from his original developmental plan. I think the max innings he threw in the minors was around 100 which is where I typically like to have our long men develop from. Unfortunately I tried to experiment to see if he could reach his prime past the in game peak which is typically 27 or 28. Here's the order of levels he went through in his final year in the minors.
AAA
A
AA
AAA
AA
AAA
A
AA
AAA
AA
A
AAA
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:36 PM   #35
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I'm still trying to figure out what everybody sees in NCAA 2K3.
Wow, this is amazing. This will revolutionize the way I develop guys! Two questions;

One; How do you develop once in a life time guys? Guys who are at a B at around 20.

Two; How do you develop those D's? Same plan?

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Old 05-28-2012, 07:44 PM   #36
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Its hard to describe my set plan. I take players with good tools or potential and press them into situations that will benifit those tools. I will usually take my top prospects (not minor league place holders) and lay out a development plan for them that will detail what they will do in the minors to develop them. Here are two examples.

Mike Montgomery (currently AAA) (A potential)
Year 1- 180 innings limit in AAA as #1 starter
Year 2- Try to collect at least 75 innings in AAA before the All star break then promotion to MLB where he will serve as first #5
Year 3- If good spring then promote to #3 starter and give a 200 IP limit.
Year 4-If performs well in MLB Then try as #1 starter in spring, if all goes well he will break camp in the #1 spot. If not then #2 for half the year then promo to #1
Planned arrival at full potential should be 2016

Wil Myers-
(Currently in AA) (A potential)
Year 1-Play in AA and split each half of the season in left and right (not in center because if we developed him there he will block Bubba Starling's plan)
Year 2-Put into AAA if performance is good in AA. Have in play every game in whichever position he performed best at.
Year 3- Put into MLB camp and see how he fares. If he performs well, then start in MLB. AAA Fall Back Plan-Send to AAA to collect 250 at bats then promote him to MLB any time after that based on performance. MLB Plan- Start in Right Field (or left if Gordon is gone) and play whole year there.
Year 4- Move to Left Field if available then play whole year there.
Planned arrival at full potential should be 2016

Rules of Thumb-
Stats-
Are helpful but they don't tell the whole story of how a player performs. I once had a player who was hitting .196 and I watched him and he seemed to absolutely kill the ball. I promoted him to AAA where he hit .300 and then went to the Mlb the following year and hit 600 career home runs.
Instead of just seeing whos hot, go down to the minor league teams and go into manage mode. Watch the players and even try to test them to see how good they are.
Extensions- I love pulling these. They are EXTREMELY HIGH RISK. However when a players draft contract is up then that is the time to get an EXTREMELY CLUB FRIENDLY DEAL. I once signed Bubba Starling to a 10 YEAR deal worth a grand total of 5,000,000.
Not every prospect is a sure thing

*
The A potential player that didn't turn out to well was partially my fault. He got hurt so many times that he was shuttled from one rehab assignment to another. He never faced a consistent competition group. He never even was able to meet half the criteria for advancement and strayed from his original developmental plan. I think the max innings he threw in the minors was around 100 which is where I typically like to have our long men develop from. Unfortunately I tried to experiment to see if he could reach his prime past the in game peak which is typically 27 or 28. Here's the order of levels he went through in his final year in the minors.
AAA
A
AA
AAA
AA
AAA
A
AA
AAA
AA
A
AAA
Damn, you got far enough to see a player get 600 homeruns? What's your secret haha.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:04 PM   #37
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Its hard to describe my set plan. I take players with good tools or potential and press them into situations that will benifit those tools. I will usually take my top prospects (not minor league place holders) and lay out a development plan for them that will detail what they will do in the minors to develop them. Here are two examples.

Mike Montgomery (currently AAA) (A potential)
Year 1- 180 innings limit in AAA as #1 starter
Year 2- Try to collect at least 75 innings in AAA before the All star break then promotion to MLB where he will serve as first #5
Year 3- If good spring then promote to #3 starter and give a 200 IP limit.
Year 4-If performs well in MLB Then try as #1 starter in spring, if all goes well he will break camp in the #1 spot. If not then #2 for half the year then promo to #1
Planned arrival at full potential should be 2016

Wil Myers-
(Currently in AA) (A potential)
Year 1-Play in AA and split each half of the season in left and right (not in center because if we developed him there he will block Bubba Starling's plan)
Year 2-Put into AAA if performance is good in AA. Have in play every game in whichever position he performed best at.
Year 3- Put into MLB camp and see how he fares. If he performs well, then start in MLB. AAA Fall Back Plan-Send to AAA to collect 250 at bats then promote him to MLB any time after that based on performance. MLB Plan- Start in Right Field (or left if Gordon is gone) and play whole year there.
Year 4- Move to Left Field if available then play whole year there.
Planned arrival at full potential should be 2016

Rules of Thumb-
Stats-
Are helpful but they don't tell the whole story of how a player performs. I once had a player who was hitting .196 and I watched him and he seemed to absolutely kill the ball. I promoted him to AAA where he hit .300 and then went to the Mlb the following year and hit 600 career home runs.
Instead of just seeing whos hot, go down to the minor league teams and go into manage mode. Watch the players and even try to test them to see how good they are.
Extensions- I love pulling these. They are EXTREMELY HIGH RISK. However when a players draft contract is up then that is the time to get an EXTREMELY CLUB FRIENDLY DEAL. I once signed Bubba Starling to a 10 YEAR deal worth a grand total of 5,000,000.
Not every prospect is a sure thing

*
The A potential player that didn't turn out to well was partially my fault. He got hurt so many times that he was shuttled from one rehab assignment to another. He never faced a consistent competition group. He never even was able to meet half the criteria for advancement and strayed from his original developmental plan. I think the max innings he threw in the minors was around 100 which is where I typically like to have our long men develop from. Unfortunately I tried to experiment to see if he could reach his prime past the in game peak which is typically 27 or 28. Here's the order of levels he went through in his final year in the minors.
AAA
A
AA
AAA
AA
AAA
A
AA
AAA
AA
A
AAA
You are officially my favorite OS'ser that I've never heard of.

I wish I could have you on the speed dial equivilant for PM's...

Or rent you for a night or two (not as gross as it sounds), so we can come up with a gameplan for my Yankees prospects (Banuelos, Betances, Romine...and the rest generated).

I have a 21 year old stud 1B prospect to go with a 21 year old SS prospect that I'd LOVE to hit it big with (both A's). I also drafted three B's and have a sprinkling of B's and C's throughout the system (and just had an F progress into a D potential too!).

Care to come up with some basic plans for me? I can post back soon with specifics. Or better yet, do you have a training/usage guide (or can you write one?) that I can apply to my players???

Royals, I'm just going to say it: I need you. Post away. I will follow. LOL!
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:22 PM   #38
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You are officially my favorite OS'ser that I've never heard of.

I wish I could have you on the speed dial equivilant for PM's...

Or rent you for a night or two (not as gross as it sounds), so we can come up with a gameplan for my Yankees prospects (Banuelos, Betances, Romine...and the rest generated).

I have a 21 year old stud 1B prospect to go with a 21 year old SS prospect that I'd LOVE to hit it big with (both A's). I also drafted three B's and have a sprinkling of B's and C's throughout the system (and just had an F progress into a D potential too!).

Care to come up with some basic plans for me? I can post back soon with specifics. Or better yet, do you have a training/usage guide (or can you write one?) that I can apply to my players???

Royals, I'm just going to say it: I need you. Post away. I will follow. LOL!
I'm sure he'll do it……… for a very reasonable fee. But in all seriousness this has the potential to change how I play MLB 12. As a Blue Jays fan, I have a farm system that's pretty stacked. I'm gonna follow his plan for Myers with Gose and Marisnick. Maybe I'll try and design my own planes

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
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I'm sure he'll do it……… for a very reasonable fee. But in all seriousness this has the potential to change how I play MLB 12. As a Blue Jays fan, I have a farm system that's pretty stacked. I'm gonna follow his plan for Myers with Gose and Marisnick. Maybe I'll try and design my own planes

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
Agreed.

Maybe we can peer pressure him into a generic "Prospect" guide? One that gives examples for how to prep guys based on position, age, and potential.

I'll go first...

Royals! Hey, Royals!!! You hear me??? Do it. Do it.



Anyway, I could use some help, Royals. Care to make a little tutorial?
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Agreed.

Maybe we can peer pressure him into a generic "Prospect" guide? One that gives examples for how to prep guys based on position, age, and potential.

I'll go first...

Royals! Hey, Royals!!! You hear me??? Do it. Do it.



Anyway, I could use some help, Royals. Care to make a little tutorial?
No pressure or anything. None at all, Royals. You shouldn't feel obligated at ALL. Not one bit.

Anyone else thinking that this could he a community project headed by Royals? Being a part of the Arbitration Panel, I'm seeing how popular things can get very quickly. This would be awesome. It'd go like a guide to OSFM.

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
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