WTNY's 2015 Pitch Edits ( Please read the FAQ )

[keymax]

Quote: Originally Posted by 55

I've got around a third of these inputted into OSFM v2.1 so far... Just a heads up.

I've edited around 15 teams myself, but left out some pitchers that I'll never use or face anyway. My eyes hurt and I was starting to talk to myself. . So more respect for your work! Keep it up!

[55]

Quote: Originally Posted by CaseIH

I take it you decided to go with WTNY's spreadsheet instead of questgav's?

After thinking about it for two days, yes.

Quote: Originally Posted by keymax

I've edited around 15 teams myself, but left out some pitchers that I'll never use or face anyway. My eyes hurt and I was starting to talk to myself. . So more respect for your work! Keep it up!

I haven't skipped a single person. Every pitcher in the sheet will be edited.

[CaseIH]

Quote: Originally Posted by 55

After thinking about it for two days, yes. I haven't skipped a single person. Every pitcher in the sheet will be edited.

Thanks a lot 55, I think all just wait then before backdating, that way I don't have to enter the pitch edits, because I know I wont be able to live without the pitch edits


I take it since you started over then you grabbed Ridins V2.1 where he fixed a couple duplicates?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by BegBy

One of my most compelling examples is Colon. That guy throws a filthy 2 seamer and he has for a very long time. Despite that, according to Brooks he throws a sinker and a fading 4 seamer with average movement with mediocre movement. I could be wrong, and I probably am, but I'd bet my left nut that he definitely throws a 2 seamer and it has a lot of movement. Played some more today...still in love with your control ratings. It's so fun to see a pitch in a harmless situation go 9 inches off course and all of a sudden you are in a small jam. I was scared seeing 20 control rating, but in all honesty it's the best rating adjustments I've seen in a sports game since years ago when one of the OS guys decided to knock slider movement down to around 20 or so.

1. Yeah, I originally classified Colon's "sinker" to a 2-seamer because of the pronounced arm-side fade vs the modest sink. It rated out as having 94 control and 69 movement. His 4-seamer moves less, only a 45 movement relative to other 4-seamers. One of the oddities about Brooks that I mentioned in the FAQ is that it lists ONLY "sinker" and no "2-seamer" although it might specify a 2-seam grip for a tiny minority of pitchers. The way to fix that is to go by "sinkers" that move more horizontally or more laterally and reclassify some to 2-seamer depending on that.

2. It's strange because I was also a bit skeptical of the really low movement/control ratings for some guys, but these edits play great and makes me think that perhaps some of the stock ratings were done randomly? What I'm thinking is maybe if it's a "name" pitcher, they just make it a high rating and if it's not, they give a lower rating. I'm sure SCEA has a system, and who knows..it could be amazing..but if there IS a system that SCEA uses for the stock pitch data, I haven't been able to figure it out yet. And, moreover, it doesn't seem to match well with current PITCHf/x data.

[DarthRambo]

Quote: Originally Posted by 55

I've got around a third of these inputted into OSFM v2.1 so far... Just a heads up.

Sweet! I was wondering where you're thread went lol. Thanks man, these are going to be awesome!

[jb12780]

I played a quick counts game, pitch counts were awesome. I had Hutchinson of the Jays at 85 plus pitches in the 4th inning.

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[Mattchu12]

All of this sounds awesome WTNY, I just hope you keep a list of the changes you've made (Kluber, Felix) so that we can enter it into our franchises as we go along if there are more.

[BegBy]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

1. Yeah, I originally classified Colon's "sinker" to a 2-seamer because of the pronounced arm-side fade vs the modest sink. It rated out as having 94 control and 69 movement. His 4-seamer moves less, only a 45 movement relative to other 4-seamers. One of the oddities about Brooks that I mentioned in the FAQ is that it lists ONLY "sinker" and no "2-seamer" although it might specify a 2-seam grip for a tiny minority of pitchers. The way to fix that is to go by "sinkers" that move more horizontally or more laterally and reclassify some to 2-seamer depending on that. 2. It's strange because I was also a bit skeptical of the really low movement/control ratings for some guys, but these edits play great and makes me think that perhaps some of the stock ratings were done randomly? What I'm thinking is maybe if it's a "name" pitcher, they just make it a high rating and if it's not, they give a lower rating. I'm sure SCEA has a system, and who knows..it could be amazing..but if there IS a system that SCEA uses for the stock pitch data, I haven't been able to figure it out yet. And, moreover, it doesn't seem to match well with current PITCHf/x data.

Yup, I honestly believe some of them are totally random. No pitcher can pitch with that accuracy that often. With your edits, I see amazing results. Outstanding work.