TNK MLB 2017 SLIDERS

[msmith05]

i use your sliders all every year. Are you seeing anything with stolen bases being too easy that people are talking about?

[HighCmpPct]

Ok here's my first game of the testing cycle my man. This game is with the first change of power to 4, All further games will be done using the new changes in 4.3.

Seattle Mariners at Houston Astros
Apr 3, 2017	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
Seattle (0-0)	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1	7	1
Houston (0-0)	0	0	0	1	1	0	1	0	x	3	10	0
W: Clayton Kershaw (1-0) L: Masahiro Tanaka (0-1) S: Raisel Iglesias (1)

Seattle Mariners
HITTERS	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	HR	AVG
Ichiro Suzuki RF	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000
Tim Anderson SS	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	.500
Ken Griffey Jr. CF	4	0	1	0	0	1	0	.250
Yuliesky Gurriel 3B	4	0	1	0	0	1	0	.250
Gary Sanchez C	4	0	0	0	0	3	0	.000
Jorge Bonifacio LF	3	1	0	0	1	0	0	.000
Cody Bellinger 1B	4	0	1	0	0	3	0	.250
Eric Thames DH	4	0	1	0	0	2	0	.250
Emilio Bonifacio 2B	3	0	1	1	0	0	0	.333
TEAM TOTALS	34	1	7	1	1	11	0
BATTING: 2B: Anderson (1) RBI: E.Bonifacio (1)
BASERUNNING: SB: Anderson (1), Griffey Jr. (1)
FIELDING: E: Tanaka (1)

Houston Astros
HITTERS	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	HR	AVG
Kevin Pillar CF	4	1	1	0	0	2	0	.250
Kolton Wong 2B	3	1	2	0	1	0	0	.667
Michael Brantly LF	4	0	2	2	0	0	0	.500
Kendrys Morales DH	3	0	1	0	1	1	0	.333
Yasmany Tomas RF	4	0	0	0	0	3	0	.000
J.T. Realmuto C	4	0	3	1	0	1	0	.750
Jefry Marte 1B	4	0	0	0	0	3	0	.000
Matt Duffy SS	3	0	0	0	1	0	0	.000
Dansby Swanson 3B	4	1	1	0	0	1	0	.250
TEAM TOTALS	33	3	10	3	3	11	0
BATTING: 2B: Realmuto (1), Pillar (1) 3B: Realmuto (1) RBI: Realmuto (1), Brantly 2 (2)
BASERUNNING: SB: Wong (1), Swanson (1) CS: Brantly (1)

Seattle Mariners
PITCHERS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
Masahiro Tanaka	5.1	5	2	2	2	8	0	3.38
Sean Doolittle	0.2	1	0	0	0	1	0	0.00
Kyle Barraclough	0.2	4	1	1	0	1	0	13.50
Jerry Blevins	1.1	0	0	0	1	1	0	0.00
TEAM TOTALS	8.0	10	3	3	3	11	0
PITCHING: WP: Tanaka (1)

Houston Astros
PITCHERS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
Clayton Kershaw	6.2	5	1	1	1	9	0	1.35
Fernando Rodriguez	0.0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0.00
Matt Strahm (H,1)	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.00
Pedro Strop (H,1)	0.1	1	0	0	0	1	0	0.00
Raisel Iglesias	1.0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0.00
TEAM TOTALS	9.0	7	1	1	1	11	0

Sorry I forgot to save the pictures of the scoring summary, however here are the starting pitchers first pitch strike numbers.

Clayton Kershaw(CPU): 26 first pitches, 58% strikes, 14 4SFB, 3 SL, 6 12CV, and 3 CH.

Masahiro Tanaka(USER): 24 first pitches, 67% strikes, 7 SPL, 10 SL, 2 4SFB, 1 CUT, 4 CB.

[mlblover15]

Hey TNK, I have in the past dabbled in your sliders but never stuck with them because of getting into thinking way too much and go back to default.. the question I have for you and all other slider builders is this...

do you build and test off of franchise or exhibition games?

the reason I ask is that the game plays in all areas completely differently so if you test in Exhibition games then throw them into a franchise you would or should get different results.. that is how I see it that is

[HighCmpPct]

Quote: Originally Posted by mlblover15

Hey TNK, I have in the past dabbled in your sliders but never stuck with them because of getting into thinking way too much and go back to default.. the question I have for you and all other slider builders is this... do you build and test off of franchise or exhibition games? the reason I ask is that the game plays in all areas completely differently so if you test in Exhibition games then throw them into a franchise you would or should get different results.. that is how I see it that is

Honestly when it comes to the Show you can test anywhere in any mode. Its not like Madden where the game plays completely different.

Yes Franchise has some extra things that can have some effects, but not to the extent that it will mess with you building sliders.

Now with that said I prefer to test in franchise simply because it keeps track of almost everything I need to track to adjust sliders. Instead of having to keep track of everything stat wise myself, in franchise I only have to keep track of say 1st pitch strikes and things like that.

So while it doesn't really matter in The Show, it does make it easier.

[FenwayMac]

I like to test in franchise because the fatigue will play a factor after a handful of games. Players seem a little too on their game in exhibition.

[Rubio809]

4 games into your updated sliders and seeing a lot of variety. Love the shots off the wall now. Seeing more extra base hits in general. 2-2 and all games have felt and stat wise have been very authentic.

My only gripe is this damn CPU hook. Verlander was dealing against me and they took him out of the 6th with only 3 hits and 77 pitches. Just takes away from the realism. Reading the slider does not do much to help though.

[TNKNGM]

I test mainly in exhibition games every year and it has never been an issue once moving into franchise

[TNKNGM]

Boston Red Sox (ME) @ Chicago White Sox (CPU)
Pitching Matchup - Drew Pomeranz vs Carlos Rodon

Boston jumped out to a 2-0 lead on Carlos Rodon in the top of the 1st when Mookie Betts turned on a fastball and drove it 474 feet for a mammoth two run blast deep into the LF stands. Dustin Pedroia smoked a ball in the gap to lead off the top of the 3rd with a triple and Benintendi picked up the RBI on a ground out to make it 3-0. The Sox blew the game open later in the inning after singles by Bogarts and Betts put two men on for Hanley Ramirez who hit a deep fly ball to LF for a 3-run HR that came down just out of the reach of Melky Cabrera who made a leaping attempt at the wall making it a 6-0 game. Geovany Soto got the White Sox on the board in the bottom of the 5th when Pomeranz hung a curveball that Soto hammered for a solo HR to make it 6-1. Andrew Benintendi made it 7-1 with a RBI double in the top of the 7th and Pomeranz got through the bottom half of the inning to cap off 7 strong innings on the mound. Jose Abreu took Joe Kelly deep for a 2-run HR to straight away CF with two outs in the bottom of the 8th to pull Chicago closer at 7-3. Kelly would get Frazier to ground out for the final out of the inning and send the game to the 9th with Boston leading 7-3. Tyler Thornburg finished it off with a scoreless bottom of the 9th as the Red Sox win 7-3

* Love the way the sliders are playing right now, good variety, things "feel" good

Boston Red Sox at Chicago White Sox
Apr 3, 2017	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
Boston (EXH)	2	0	4	0	0	0	1	0	0	7	12	0
Chicago (EXH)	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	2	0	3	10	0
W: Drew Pomeranz L: Carlos Rodon

Scoring Summary
SCORING DETAILS			BOS	CHW
BOS	1	Mookie Betts 2-run HR to LF (Benintendi scores) (474 feet)	2	0
BOS	3	Andrew Benintendi grounded out to SS (Pedroia scores)	3	0
BOS	3	Hanley Ramirez 3-run HR to LF (Bogaerts & Betts score) (394 feet)	6	0
CHW	5	Geovany Soto solo HR to LF (405 feet)	6	1
BOS	7	Andrew Benintendi doubled to CF (Pedroia scores)	7	1
CHW	8	Jose Abreu 2-run HR to CF (Tilson scores)	7	3

Boston Red Sox
HITTERS	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	HR	AVG
Pedroia, 2B	5	2	2	0	0	0	0
Benintendi, LF	4	1	2	2	0	0	0
Bogaerts SS	5	1	2	0	0	2	0
Betts,RF	4	2	2	2	0	1	1
Ramirez, 1B	4	1	2	3	0	1	1
Young, DH	2	0	1	0	2	0	0
Sandoval, 3B	3	0	0	0	1	1	0
Bradley, CF	4	0	1	0	0	0	0
Vazquez, C	4	0	0	0	0	2	0
TEAM TOTALS	35	7	12	7	3	7	2
BATTING: 2B: Benintendi, Bogaerts 3B: Pedroia HR: Betts, Ramirez RBI: Ramirez 3, Benintendi 2, Betts 2 HBP: Benintendi GIDP: Vazquez, Bogaerts
BASERUNNING: CS: Young

Chicago White Sox
HITTERS	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	HR	AVG
Tilson, CF	4	1	1	0	0	1	0
Anderson, SS	4	0	1	0	0	2	0
Cabrera, LF	4	0	2	0	0	0	0
Abreu, 1B	3	1	1	2	1	1	1
Frazier, 3B	4	0	0	0	0	1	0
Garcia, RF	4	0	3	0	0	0	0
Soto, C	4	1	1	1	0	1	1
Davidson, DH	4	0	1	0	0	0	0
Saladino, 2B	3	0	0	0	1	1	0
TEAM TOTALS	34	3	10	3	2	7	2
BATTING: 2B: Cabrera HR: Soto, Abreu RBI: Abreu 2, Soto GIDP: Frazier, Soto, Abreu

Boston Red Sox
PITCHERS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
Drew Pomeranz (W)	7.0	6	1	1	2	5	1	1.29
Joe Kelly	1.0	2	2	2	0	1	1	18.00
Tyler Thornburg	1.0	2	0	0	0	1	0	0.00
TEAM TOTALS	9.0	10	3	3	2	7	2
PITCHING: Pitches-Strikes: Pomeranz - 81 pitches (68% Strikes(

Chicago White Sox
PITCHERS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
Carlos Rodon (L)	3.0	6	6	6	1	3	2	18.00
Michael Ynoa	5.0	5	1	1	2	4	0	1.80
Zach Putnam	1.0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0.00
TEAM TOTALS	9.0	12	7	7	3	7	2
PITCHING: Pitches-Strikes: Rodon - 58 Pitches (64% Strikes)

Here's a screenshot of the bomb I hit with Betts