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[Artman22]

Quote: Originally Posted by Caulfield

if it ain't, it needs to be, if only for the sake of bunting. but I really don't think it is.

Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say..


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[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Artman22

Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You chalk it up to different experiences and move along


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[KnightTemplar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Artman22

Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would never play a game that is a home run derby. I think people forget all the sliders/levels and then the gamers actual ability with a controller. If I felt this game was off, I wouldn't be playing it. You use MANY that criticize the game and SOME here aren't seeing it. Could that be reverse? I see complaints on Facebook and shake my head because I just don't get it. Nobody really knows the expectations of each gamer.

[Bullit]

Quote: Originally Posted by Artman22

Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just my opinion, which is worth exactly nothing by the way. I think we get so many different experiences because of the variety of rosters. Folks like Countryboy are playing exclusively on carry over franchises that have been going on for years. I think these rosters are inherently better balanced and not as effected by year to year changes in the game engine outside of gameplay additions. A very large group of us here use created or fictional rosters that are technically more balanced than the default rosters.

I mean no disrespect to anybody. But the SDS rosters and continuing updates are just garbage. They are poorly balanced statistically and fundamentally just don't work well. I had all but given up on last years game until I discovered Bacons fictional rosters. I started a franchise with this years rosters and had nothing but problems. Too many trades, play felt unbalanced. Everything was extremes. I would either have no offense or I would have too much offense. But I currently am deep into 3 different franchises with user created rosters and have never played a better game of Baseball in my life.

Also a lot offline franchise players may tweak sliders to remedy gameplay to their liking. This option is not available in DD or most online modes I believe.

All of this combined would naturally give different gameplay experiences to a multitude of players, in most categories of the game.

[Artman22]

On stock sliders on HOF we were sometimes getting a ton of HRs every game. In the league I’m playing with the twins and in 8 games in Buxton had 6HRs. Some guys on different teams were in double digits in the same amount of games. It got to the point where members of the league were calling the game a HR derby. This started happening more after the last update and the fielding has also taken a hit. We now lowered the HR sliders and had to up the difficulty to Legend to try and remedy the HR issues.


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[JoshC1977]

If you're using the 2020 rosters on default settings; it's a perfect recipe for a HR Derby feel and I can imagine it would be worse depending on one's input methods.

I play a ton of DD offline (which yes, is on default settings) and a ton of franchise with my slightly tweaked sliders and a custom roster (Bacon's). I've got a good basis for compare/contrast...and there are several key issues:

1. 2020 Rosters. Issue 1 is a incredibly poor balance between high-end hitters and high-end pitchers. Bullpens are a disaster and many rotations are not much better. Now, if you want to argue "that's the era we're in", ok fine...but then we get to number 2 and I question if it's a bit overdone.

2. 2020 Rosters. Issue 2 is that there are SO many players with large numbers of bright red hot zones. Compare the number of red hot zones of high end players from the 2020 roster to even last years SDS roster. It's stark...and you hit a ball with good timing in a bright red zone, the ball is going to fly a long way.

Folks playing offline with custom rosters not built off of this year's rosters (or those using carryovers) are going to have a VASTLY different experience. Additionally, two other contributors....

3. Solid hits is too high by default. This isn't uncommon with the series; but the quality of contact is just a touch too high (which potentiates the other issues). It's also why the online guys often cry about so many line-outs. Even the slightest lowering of this can greatly improve the hit variety a ton.

4. Pitch control is too low by default. I don't care if you use classic, meter, or analog; if you roll with default settings, you've seen this a lot. You use a solid pitcher, aim a FB a ball length to the outside and it somehow drifts all the way back over to the middle zone of the plate (to get crushed). Pitchers miss pitches, we ALL understand that. We ALL understand ratings. I fundamentally question the frequency of how often pitchers with even average (~60) pitch control miss by THAT MUCH. Bumping it up a single notch curtails this while by no means making it "easy".

[Artman22]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoshC1977

If you're using the 2020 rosters on default settings; it's a perfect recipe for a HR Derby feel and I can imagine it would be worse depending on one's input methods. I play a ton of DD offline (which yes, is on default settings) and a ton of franchise with my slightly tweaked sliders and a custom roster (Bacon's). I've got a good basis for compare/contrast...and there are several key issues: 1. 2020 Rosters. Issue 1 is a incredibly poor balance between high-end hitters and high-end pitchers. Bullpens are a disaster and many rotations are not much better. Now, if you want to argue "that's the era we're in", ok fine...but then we get to number 2 and I question if it's a bit overdone. 2. 2020 Rosters. Issue 2 is that there are SO many players with large numbers of bright red hot zones. Compare the number of red hot zones of high end players from the 2020 roster to even last years SDS roster. It's stark...and you hit a ball with good timing in a bright red zone, the ball is going to fly a long way. Folks playing offline with custom rosters not built off of this year's rosters (or those using carryovers) are going to have a VASTLY different experience. Additionally, two other contributors.... 3. Solid hits is too high by default. This isn't uncommon with the series; but the quality of contact is just a touch too high (which potentiates the other issues). It's also why the online guys often cry about so many line-outs. Even the slightest lowering of this can greatly improve the hit variety a ton. 4. Pitch control is too low by default. I don't care if you use classic, meter, or analog; if you roll with default settings, you've seen this a lot. You use a solid pitcher, aim a FB a ball length to the outside and it somehow drifts all the way back over to the middle zone of the plate (to get crushed). Pitchers miss pitches, we ALL understand that. We ALL understand ratings. I fundamentally question the frequency of how often pitchers with even average (~60) pitch control miss by THAT MUCH. Bumping it up a single notch curtails this while by no means making it "easy".

Would you suggest lowering juman solid hits and power by 1 or more clicks and raising the pitcher control by 1?


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[Houston]

Leagues u can use sliders just like offline no different that makes gameplay more realistic. There us not that much difference inside a league and offline as far as sliders work.

Now it will depend on internet who your playing when pitching behind pitcher hie pitches look which is still a visual thing.