UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

[DakkoN]

Advanced difficulty = a whole bunch of me getting tooled on the ground and then me winning with a flash KO. Happened 3 times in a row now. Everytime I get Shogun on the ground he just tools me and gets me in position and then I kick him off. Everytime he gets me on the ground, he tools me and I kick him off...

[mgoblue]

On Experienced I finally got Chuck to submit...3rd round, I'd nailed him with tons of body shots so his stamina must have been low. I was on top, but he flipped, and I went rubber guard into a triangle for the tap. Felt so awesome, submissions are possible, just damn near impossible against Chuck, as it is in real life.

Followed that up with a decision on experienced. I was owning Liddell (gotta check out the next level), so the 30-26, 30-26, 30-25 was real, but I was trying for another submission again so more was learning the system. Definitely getting better as I play!

[Keith121212]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue

On Experienced I finally got Chuck to submit...3rd round, I'd nailed him with tons of body shots so his stamina must have been low. I was on top, but he flipped, and I went rubber guard into a triangle for the tap. Felt so awesome, submissions are possible, just damn near impossible against Chuck, as it is in real life. Followed that up with a decision on experienced. I was owning Liddell (gotta check out the next level), so the 30-26, 30-26, 30-25 was real, but I was trying for another submission again so more was learning the system. Definitely getting better as I play!

Did he tap standing or did Shogun make him fall to the ground and then he tapped?

[mgoblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Keith121212

Did he tap standing or did Shogun make him fall to the ground and then he tapped?

It was from my guard so we were on the ground...not sure if you can get them standing or not. Still looked cool, I'm so used to the "going for triangle" animation, but having it fail...actually seeing my legs lock I yelled "F*** yeah" lol

[Keith121212]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue

It was from my guard so we were on the ground...not sure if you can get them standing or not. Still looked cool, I'm so used to the "going for triangle" animation, but having it fail...actually seeing my legs lock I yelled "F*** yeah" lol

You misunderstood me, was Chuck Liddell standing when he tapped or did Shogun make him fall, and then he tapped? I'm asking because I want to know if they tap from different positions. I've only done a successful triangle once with Shogun and I agree with you it definitely feels great to finally pull it off.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Keith121212

You misunderstood me, was Chuck Liddell standing when he tapped or did Shogun make him fall, and then he tapped? I'm asking because I want to know if they tap from different positions. I've only done a successful triangle once with Shogun and I agree with you it definitely feels great to finally pull it off.

I think You are misunderstanding him. He said Chuck was in his guard. Meaning that Rua (mgoblue) was on his back. Chuck was in his guard, Rua applied rubber guard, then went into the triangle. Once locked the person in the triangle kind of falls on his side then taps.

I have never seen a standing triangle, only one I was seen is the one from the guard postion.

[Keith121212]

You misunderstood me too but then you inadvertently answered my question with this

"Once locked the person in the triangle kind of falls on his side then taps."

Thanks. I was wondering if they could tap when they were standing but I guess they always fall and then tap. See what I was asking? I never said anything about standing triangles. I just asked if Chuck Liddell (the one that was getting triangled) was standing when he tapped or did Shogun make him fall.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by hogfan

I've noticed this, too. Needs to be fixed. when you knock your opponent down, how do you jump on him?

You can dive down on them with a big shot. When standing over the guy on his back. You tap TOWARD the downed player then hit a punch button. It is just like the dodge moves where you "tap" a direction then a strike.

Quote: Originally Posted by DakkoN

Advanced difficulty = a whole bunch of me getting tooled on the ground and then me winning with a flash KO. Happened 3 times in a row now. Everytime I get Shogun on the ground he just tools me and gets me in position and then I kick him off. Everytime he gets me on the ground, he tools me and I kick him off...

After playing for 10+ hours. I honestly feel Advanced is the most "fair". Another words, anyone can win in MMA. But to get to the most balance between the two fighters I feel advanced is the skill level. Beginner and experience I can win 7-10 times with either chuck or Rua. From a stats point of view. Chuck should dominate the stand up. Rua will be attempting to go for take downs and get Chuck on his back. Chuck has great take down defense so he will be tough to catch.

What I have noticed is on Advanced Fatigue seems to have a greater effect and more noticable. The fighters fight to their strengths much better. Less of them standing there eating punches to the face. More Clinch work, which is nice.

When I played Rua with Chuck last night. It went how you would think. Rua attempted some inside legs kicks at the start of the fight. Landed a big head kick which lead to me keeping my hands up as much as possible. I would pick my shots and look to pick Rua apart from the outside with him chasing me (Chucks strong suit). He tried shooting on me many times. But Chuck is a beast to take down so I kept Rua at bay most of the time. The two times he managed to time it with my punch and shoot he landed a perfect take down and then I was in Rua's world. It became a Loooooonngggggg round. Spending most of your time on your back with a fighter who does not have killer ground game is a very tough challange on advanced. Which it should be. I managed to keep twisting my body to keep Rua in my guard, holding his head down, popping a shot here and there to attempt to sweep. The first time I got up I must of been on my back the entire round almost from one take down. Rua got to the mount position after a long back and forth. I managed to flip over and Rua took my back. I then started throwing some elbows trying to keep Rua from applying the rear choke. I then managed to stand flip Rua and get back to my feet.

The beauty of Advanced is once you are in a fighters strong area, you can feel the difference than the other difficults. With Rua I managed to get Chuck to his back, started hitting with some ground and pound, managed to pass his guard and got into side control. I cut chuck with some elbows from side control. The amount of struggle on the ground is soooooo sick.