UFC 199: Rockhold vs. Weidman 2 - June 4

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

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I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm honestly trying to understand his perspective. I just thought it was strange that his position is hate speech in one situation is sad but in others it's ok.

I'll never understand that. Especially given that he wasn't joking. Bisping wasn't "busting balls". He was legit angry because Rockhold was talking trash back.

Anyway I don't agree with his perspective but it is what it is. It's not even like a fine is for this is out of the ordinary for sports. The NBA has fined several players for using that word in the past.

[Haz____]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm honestly trying to understand his perspective. I just thought it was strange that his position is hate speech in one situation is sad but in others it's ok. I'll never understand that. Especially given that he wasn't joking. Bisping wasn't "busting balls". He was legit angry because Rockhold was talking trash back. Anyway I don't agree with his perspective but it is what it is. It's not even like a fine is for this is out of the ordinary for sports. The NBA has fined several players for using that word in the past.

And I don't understand, or agree with you.

...buuut....

Opinions are like *******s.

Everybody has 1.

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And just to make myself clear(Considering aholbert32 posted his response even though the conversation was "ended", I think i'm entitled to express myself as well).

-Boldy proclaiming, "I HATE N(word)s" is 100% hate fueled. No wiggle room there.

-Plastering Nazi imagery all over, again 100% hate fueled. ZERO wiggle room there.

Calling someone a fag, when you could have said, *******, jerk, dickhead, donk, etc, and it all would have meant the same thing, is not hate fueled.

AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. There was zero hate, or maliciousness in what Bisbing said.


The 2 examples just do not compare at all.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Haz____

And I don't understand, or agree with you. ...buuut.... Opinions are like *******s. Everybody has 1. -------- And just to make myself clear(Considering aholbert32 posted his response even though the conversation was "ended", I think i'm entitled to express myself as well). -Boldy proclaiming, "I HATE N(word)s" is 100% hate fueled. No wiggle room there. -Plastering Nazi imagery all over, again 100% hate fueled. ZERO wiggle room there. Calling someone a fag, when you could have said, *******, jerk, dickhead, donk, etc, and it all would have meant the same thing, is not hate fueled. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. There was zero hate, or maliciousness in what Bisbing said. The 2 examples just do not compare at all.

This is the last thing I'll say about this:

To compare the word Bisping used (which is perhaps the most offensive word you can call a gay person and its use always has a hateful intention) to someone calling someone a jerk or a donk (whatever that is)....is dumbfounding.

Also to claim there was no hate intended when Bisping is yelling at a heated rival who is insulting him is also curious.

Anyway u have your position and I have mine. I'm just glad that society is leaning more toward my take than urs.

[Haz____]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

This is the last thing I'll say about this: To compare the word Bisping used (which is perhaps the most offensive word you can call a gay person and its use always has a hateful intention) to someone calling someone a jerk or a donk (whatever that is)....is dumbfounding. Also to claim there was no hate intended when Bisping is yelling at a heated rival who is insulting him is also curious. Anyway u have your position and I have mine. I'm just glad that society is leaning more toward my take than urs.

You're just looking for a reason to be upset.

Anyone with a working brain knows Bisping wasn't hating on homosexuals......

It does not compare to NAZI imagery, and literally just saying "I HATE ******S"

It's literally nowhere near the same thing at all.

NOT EVEN CLOSE.

It's dumbfounding to me you would even try to make such a HUGE stretch.


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*note to mods* I PMd aholbert multiple posts ago, but hed rather keep posting his responses HERE, instead of in the PM.

[DJ]

In light of the horrible tragedy in Orlando, let's just refrain from discussing this further.

[TheShizNo1]

I'm just going to close this since we can't drop it off. Also PM a mod as opposed to leaving a note in the thread.

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