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Old 11-03-2023, 02:35 PM   #153
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Jordan in Converses looks more bizarre to me than Jordan wearing a different NBA team's jersey haha.


For all of you on 2k24 is the AI any better on defense than 23? Main things bothering me about 2k23:
-Too much respect for nonshooters, guys guarding a nonshooter don't camp the paint or roam enough.
-Most of the advanced defensive coaching settings just don't work. You can tell guys to hedge, switch on picks, etc and they just don't. In general there's almost no switching which is very inaccurate compared to the real NBA.
-Sometimes incredibly bizarre/dumb help and rotation movements that honestly seem like bugs they make so little sense.


Blazers/Bulls 2077-2078 - Rise of the Inverted Pick and Roll

2075 had ended with the Bulls finally putting together a championship run after getting a new coach and a big trade. However it had come courtesy of the Brooklyn Nets suffering a key injury. Just like Draymond Greene had boasted 50 years earlier during the Warrior's Curry era, Lamar Wright of the Nets put the NBA on notice: nobody had beaten this Nets team when they were healthy.

The Nets emphatically drove this home by winning in 2076 and 2077. 2076 even featured a 16-0 sweep of the playoffs, a feat not seen since the legendary Sharpe/Duncan/Jordan Blazers did it in 2036.

The Bulls were looking for a strategy to beat the Nets but no playbook, play assignments, or lineups they tried seemed to work. In 2076 they tried going smaller, playing star 6'8" SF/PF Dell Hayward at the 4, but to no avail. DPOY PF David Moore was able to keep up with him on the perimeter.

In general I've had a hard time getting value out of doing what is now standard in the real NBA: going smaller and shootier at PF. It's in large part to the defensive issues I mention at the start of this post: the CPU respects non-shooters too much so you don't get punished as hard as you should for just playing a 7 fter nonshooter at PF and crushing your opponents on the offensive glass if they dare to play a 6'8" guy.

The Bulls lost to the Nets 2-4 in 2077 just doing the traditional (in 2k) thing, with Haywood at SF and 2 bigs. Better than the prior year but still not good enough. In the 2077 offseason the Bulls lost their 2nd best big, Felder, due to financial constraints. This led them to once again trying Hayward at PF. And this time around they found a way for that to provide a meaningful edge.

Inverted pick and rolls, where the guard is setting the screen and a larger player is the ballhandler, have been pretty uncommon in the NBA but seem to be gaining popularity recently in real life. They are not something you generally get in NBA2k because the game does not give guards the 'PnR Roll Man' play assignment without human intervention.

Given Hayward's great passing skills and vision, it made sense to try and make this happen, so the backcourt of Byrd (PG) and two 6'6" SGs in Jermaine Johnston and Travis Becker all received this as one of their 2 plays (the other being PnR Ballhandler. We were going all in on PnR, even guard/guard PnRs).

In 2078 the inevitable showdown with the Nets in the ECF came to pass. After a rough game 1 where Chicago only scored 109 points to Brooklyn's 127, the new system started to pay dividends. In game 2, Dell Hayward went for 43/12/8. In game 3, Hayward was held to 19, but other guys got open and the team made 25 3s. The nice thing about guards as roll men is that they're very good at consistently popping for a good look at 3, and the Bulls took full advantage.

After game 1, the Bulls would score 130, 131, 137, 120, 120, 132 points, completely unheard of numbers against the Net's usually smothering defense. The Nets of course also had an amazing offense and pushed the series to 7 (the 137 point game was actually a 137-145 loss for the Bulls lol), but in game 7 the Bulls had the hot hand, and Dell Hayward posted a 37/14/13 line to lead them to victory. The Nets big 4 had finally lost when healthy! Thanks to the power of the inverted pick and roll.

In the finals a still young Blazers team even tried copying the Bulls strategy, but their level of playmaking and teamwork was not at the same standard and they missed the pass for the open 3 more often than not. The Bulls win the Finals 4-1. Everett Byrd takes finals MVP honors, though some think Dell Hayward should have gotten it as a reward for a better overall playoffs and being the MVP for the 'real finals' against the Nets.

It's the 2nd trophy of the Bulls 'Byrd Era', but pessimists think it may be their last, as starter Travis Becker will be lost for nothing in the offseason for financial reasons, and Byrd is starting to lose a step due to age.

The NBA will also move to universal playoff seeding next year, with all 16 playoff spots seeded purely by record, in an attempt to address the "ECF is the real finals" issue that has been ongoing for about 2 decades now.

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Old 11-03-2023, 06:58 PM   #154
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Gonna start posting pics of my franchise in here soon feel like it will add an interesting element
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Old 11-03-2023, 07:50 PM   #155
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So we’re three weeks into the season, and we can kind of get a glimpse of what teams are going to be veryyyyy good and bad. Also updating you guys on some other news.

So currently, the Lakers, Grizzlies and Thunder are at the top of the West. Shai has absolutely taken another leap, and it’s fair to say he is definitely an early MVP candidate. Ja is continuing his MVP campaign with a hot start once.. let’s hope this doesnt lead to another disappointing end in April. The Lakers have also been studs, but with AD injured for 6-8 weeks with an ankle injury, they will be in for a rough stretch.
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Old 11-03-2023, 10:59 PM   #156
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What you all do to have more realistic sim stats ? Like for me there are always some guys with way too high 3 PT % and Lukas Stats are especially unbelievable.
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Old 11-04-2023, 01:19 AM   #157
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So I’m just messing around and did a Magic/Bird era. I have simmed mostly and just finished the 2002 season. The twist though is that the Heat, Magic, Wolves, Hornets, Raptors and Grizzlies all joined the league at the start of the 84 season.

Jordan just retired at the end of the 02 season. He was drafted by the Grizzlies but also played for LA and Portland. He won two rings both in LA in 91 and 92. He got the Trailblazers to the finals once but lost to a Shaq lead Pacers team. Both LA and Vancouver retired his number. As you can see Isaiah Thomas also had his number retired by two teams.


Another crazy thing about this sim is that Pippen was drafted by the Trailblazers and played with them for years before signing with the Bulls. Pippen and Shaq dominated the 90’s getting the Bulls 5 championships and lost a couple more.
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So I’m just messing around and did a Magic/Bird era. I have simmed mostly and just finished the 2002 season. The twist though is that the Heat, Magic, Wolves, Hornets, Raptors and Grizzlies all joined the league at the start of the 84 season.

Jordan just retired at the end of the 02 season. He was drafted by the Grizzlies but also played for LA and Portland. He won two rings both in LA in 91 and 92. He got the Trailblazers to the finals once but lost to a Shaq lead Pacers team. Both LA and Vancouver retired his number. As you can see Isaiah Thomas also had his number retired by two teams.


Another crazy thing about this sim is that Pippen was drafted by the Trailblazers and played with them for years before signing with the Bulls. Pippen and Shaq dominated the 90’s getting the Bulls 5 championships and lost a couple more.
This is cool. Did this save not have the career stats glitch? I haven't been able to run a test sim of era mode without that glitch ruining it.
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Old 11-04-2023, 02:31 AM   #159
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This is cool. Did this save not have the career stats glitch? I haven't been able to run a test sim of era mode without that glitch ruining it.
What exactly is the career stats glitch? I did have an issue with a few players years played because I imported DNA but the stats were all correct.

I forgot to mention that Larry Bird has been the Bulls coach since 1999 and he has won coach of the year twice.
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What exactly is the career stats glitch? I did have an issue with a few players years played because I imported DNA but the stats were all correct.

I forgot to mention that Larry Bird has been the Bulls coach since 1999 and he has won coach of the year twice.
That is also really cool lol I have seen the glitch a few different ways. 1) players are randomly missing a season in their career stats (even though they played) along with any achievement ie. All-NBA would not appear in their achievements 2) Instead of missing a season under career stats they have a random season on a different team with wrong stats. 3) Some bad overall players have crazy season stats, but if you actually go look at their game log they rarely ever get into games. I saw a 72ish overall player averaging like 16 rebounds a game and ended up winning an end of season award and he actually only played like 10 games all season for a couple minutes each game.

I have seen this glitch talked about on Reddit, but not around here. Apparently it has been around for a few years worth of 2k, but I got through a good 30 year my era mode on 2k23 and didnt see any of the glitch.

Some claim it has to do with uploading custom draft classes, but I did that all on 2k23 and didn't have an issue. But so far on 2k24 I have seen it in every single save I have tried.

Maybe it has to do with the roster being used, but it's good to know that you haven't seen it.
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