2nd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 11.21.24

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by sirdez

Interesting that they have created a new Elfrid Payton model without any career history, like they would for any new 2-way player. Do they not have previous DNA/stats for him in the database? He was playing as recently as 2022. They still have his animations in the game but not his likeness or history?

My guess is this isn't an easy revival. Or something is broken with the old model.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

My guess is this isn't an easy revival. Or something is broken with the old model.

Ratings are identical FWIW.

All that stat data is tied to their Player ID. If you're adding a player it's using a new number.

The stats etc probably don't port over as easily from older games bc they add new categories / menus / change the overlays, etc

[sirdez]

Yeah I just figured they would revive his old player model, the same way they did with IT last year when he signed for Phoenix unexpectedly.

Just going through some of those rosters where PC users upload old player likenesses from IDs already stored in the database, and Payton doesn't appear on any of those, so maybe he had just been removed entirely.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by sirdez

Yeah I just figured they would revive his old player model, the same way they did with IT last year when he signed for Phoenix unexpectedly. Just going through some of those rosters where PC users upload old player likenesses from IDs already stored in the database, and Payton doesn't appear on any of those, so maybe he had just been removed entirely.

Yeah, I think any player that is out of the league X years gets removed from the database. The Two-way big that was on the Bucks and originally drafted by the Wizards would be another recent example.

[Real2KInsider]

SACRAMENTO KINGS (3-4 since last update)
90 (+2) De'Aaron Fox
77 (+1) Kevin Huerter
75 (+1) Trey Lyles
73 (-1) Jordan McLaughlin
71 (-1) Doug McDermott

Fox scored 109 points in a two game period, en route to Player of the Week.

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NEW YORK KNICKS (6-2 since last update)
92 (-1) Jalen Brunson
91 (+2) Karl Anthony Towns
85 (+1) OG Anunoby
77 (+2) Cameron Payne
74 (+4) Tyler Kolek
70 (+2) Ariel Hukporti

BADGES UPDATES
Tyler Kolek
TOTAL: 4 (+4)
BRONZE: Break Starter, Strong Handle, Unpluckable, Versatile Visionary

Beyond that, Bridges/OG/Hart's positions were all fixed.

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LOS ANGELES LAKERS (6-0 since last update)
96 (+1) LeBron James
80 (+7) Dalton Knecht
78 (-2) D’Angelo Russell
74 (+1) Cam Reddish
74 (+1) Jaxson Hayes
74 (+1) Max Christie
72 (-1) Gabe Vincent

LeBron averaged 23 PPG, 10 RPG, 12 APG which is what lead to his slight boost.

Russell fell out of the starting lineup.

BADGE UPDATES
Dalton Knecht
TOTAL: 6 (+6)
GOLD: Set Shot Specialist, Slippery Off-Ball
SILVER: Deadeye, Shifty Shooter
BRONZE: Bail Out, Limitless Range

Knecht blew up with a 37-point game right before the update.

Has a shot at ROY as his hold on a starting job might be firmer than Jared McCain's. Hey if Mike Miller can do it...

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ORLANDO MAGIC (6-1 since last update)
88 (+2) Franz Wagner
78 (+5) Goga Bitadze
77 (+1) Anthony Black
74 (-2) Cole Anthony
73 (-1) Gary Harris

Bitadze established himself as the starting Center in Wendell Carter Jr's absence. He never should have been this low in the first place considering the contract he signed.

BADGE UPDATES
Goga Bitadze
TOTAL: 5 (+1)
SILVER: Paint Prodigy (+1), Post Powerhouse (ADD)

[Real2KInsider]

DALLAS MAVERICKS (3-4 since last update)
96 (-1) Luka Doncic
82 (+1) Dereck Lively
82 (+1) Daniel Gafford
80 (-1) Klay Thompson
79 (+1) PJ Washington
77 (+1) Naji Marshall
72 (-2) Maxi Kleber
71 (-1) Olivier-Maxence Prosper

Luka has struggled with his 3-ball (only 32% over this stretch). Other players stepped up to compensate.

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BROOKLYN NETS (2-5 since last update)
82 (-1) Dennis Schroder
82 (+2) Cameron Johnson
76 (+1) Ziaire Williams
75 (+1) Jalen Wilson

BADGE UPDATES
Dennis Schroder
TOTAL: 10 (+2)
SILVER: Lightning Launch (ADD)
BRONZE: Dimer (ADD)

Schroder is having a career season:
16.3 PER, 58 TS% (Career-High), 31 AST%, 24 USG%

His AST% hasn't cracked 30 AST% since he played for the Hawks. Only shot 51.6 TS% on 27.8 USG% in those 5 years, so he's now been able to give an ideal mix of scoring and playmaking.

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DENVER NUGGETS (3-2 since last update)
98 (+1) Nikola Jokic - 98 OVR (+1)
83 (-2) Jamal Murray - 83 OVR (-2)
81 (+1) Christian Braun - 81 OVR (+1)
78 (-1) Russell Westbrook - 78 OVR (-1)
77 (+2) Peyton Watson - 77 OVR (+2)

Nikola Jokic has reminded us all he is him. Jamal Murray has enforced that he's just a guy (no longer the 2nd highest rated player on the team).

I have to assume NBA schedule makers had an idea of when Jokic's wife was going to give birth because DEN played no games from Nov 11-14th.

BADGE UPDATES
Christian Braun (2nd Badge Update)
TOTAL: 12 (+1)
GOLD: Slippery Off-Ball (+2)
SILVER: Challenger (+1), Glove (+1), Interceptor (+1), Off-Ball Pest (+1), Physical Finisher (+1), Pogo Stick, Posterizer, Set Shot Specialist
BRONZE: Layup Mixmaster (ADD), Mini Marksman, Pick Dodger

Braun doesn't come off screens. He's not a volume 3pt shooter. He has a 48 3PT% on a paltry 2.7 3PA/36. 2K is just making **** up.

Maybe Mike forgot the difference between Bruce Bowen and Peja Stojakovic.

Peyton Watson
TOTAL: 5 (+1)
GOLD: High-Flying Denier (+1), Pogo Stick (+2)
SILVER: Physical Finisher
BRONZE: Paint Patroller (ADD), Strong Handle

[AIRJ23]

Can’t wait to see 2K using 2K LeBron logic bump LeBron to a 98 OVR after his recent stretch lol.

But really. Taking wagers on them not moving his OVR down at all. A -111 plus/minus (worst on team) I’m sure won’t bring it back down to earth either.

[Real2KInsider]

INDIANA PACERS (2-5 since last update)
83 (+3) Benedict Mathurin
77 (+2) Jarace Walker
72 (+5) Quenton Jackson (Listed as +4 in OP)

11/7 to 11/21 Production
Mathurin: 21 PPG, 7 RPG, 34 MPG (53-57-85 Shooting)
Walker: 6 PPG, 5 RPG (but only 32-33-70 Shooting)
Jackson: 8 PPG

Mathurin has been getting a heavy load with Nesmith/Nembhard out (as well as Haliburton being diminished)

Walker's rise has more to do with his role than his actual play.

Jackson made his first career start on 11/20 and responded with 24 pts on 10-12 FG.

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NEW ORLEANS PELICANS (1-6 since last update)
79 (+1) Jose Alvarado
77 (+4) Brandon Boston Jr
77 (+4) Yves Missi
75 (+2) Jeremiah Robinson Earl
73 (+1) Trey Jemison III
72 (+4) Antonio Reeves
71 (-2) Daniel Theis

BADGE UPDATES
Yves Missi
TOTAL: 6 (+4)
SILVER: High-Flying Denier (+1), Pogo Stick (+1), Rebound Chaser (ADD)
BRONZE: Aerial Wizard (ADD), Boxout Beast (ADD), Brick Wall (ADD)

Last 2 Weeks: 8 PPG, 8 RPG, 25 MPG (61 FG%)
Missi took the starting spot from Daniel Theis more or less by default as Theis fell out of the rotation (hence why he's a -2).

Brandon Boston Jr
TOTAL: 5 (+5)
SILVER: Float Game, Layup Mixmaster, Shifty Shooter
BRONZE: Break Starter, Strong Handle

Last 2 Weeks: 13.7 PPG, 5.7 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.7 SPG, 34.6 MPG (only 38 FG%, 30 3PT%)

BBJ was thrust into a major rotation role due to New Orleans' extensive injuries.
Not a fan of the Layup changes given his inefficiencies.

Antonio Reeves
TOTAL: 1 (+1)
BRONZE: Set Shot Specialist

Reeves had a 34-point explosion the day before the update. Pete has mentioned that 2K roster updates don't factor the days right before the update, but that appears to not be the case anymore (Quentin Jackson also an example of this).

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DETROIT PISTONS (4-4 since last update)
88 (+1) Cade Cunningham
82 (+1) Jalen Duren
81 (+1) Jaden Ivey
78 (+3) Malik Beasley
74 (+1) Ron Holland
72 (+2) Wendell Moore Jr

Beasley never should have been this low to begin with. He's enjoying his 2nd highest scoring season (16 PPG).

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TORONTO RAPTORS (1-5 since last update)
82 (+2) Jakob Poeltl
78 (+2) Ochai Agbaji
77 (+2) Chris Boucher
75 (+2) Jonathan Mogbo
72 (+2) Jamison Battle

As with the Pelicans, losing / injured teams will actually have players going up in rating because healthy players are getting larger roles.

Poeltl for his part has been doing a reasonable Isaiah Hartenstein impression. Has mastery on his Floater, Shooting 63% from 10-15 Feet.

BADGE UPDATES
Davion Mitchell (probably from the 11/7 Update where he was +4 OVR)
TOTAL: 9 (+1)
SILVER: Unpluckable (ADD)

Jonathan Mogbo
TOTAL: 3 (+3)
BRONZE: Interceptor, Pogo Stick, Rebound Chaser