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Old 08-20-2017, 02:57 AM   #73
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Re: Paul Pierce Revealed For NBA 2K18 All-Time Celtics Team, Who Deserves to Join Him

at no point in paul pierces career should he have been a 9 overall
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:04 AM   #74
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Man, Paul should be 90 and max out at like 92. Thats as far as I let him go. Some of yall act like he should an 84 instead lmao Paul had some crazy good seasons. Came in and immediately made an impact. Had heasons where he was averaging 25-27ppg, 5-7 rpg and like 4-5 apg. Hit big shots, always played good D but didn't get recognition for it or become a really good defender till late 2000s and was pretty consistent. Lay off the truth.
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People seriously think Durant should be on the All-Time Warriors team??? Over Sprewell even? That's just insane. Knowing 2k though, Durant will be in.
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So did Andre Iguodala lol.

I still think it's premature. I know there will be people who disagree with that but I strongly feel there should be a minimum number of games or seasons you have to play with a franchise to be able to qualify for their All-Time team. Just like most statistical categories require a certain number of games played or minutes played, or with percentages a certain number of attempts. Embiid missed rookie of the year this season because he didn't play enough games, etc..

Like I said it would be different had the team been in a 15 year slump and all the sudden this KD guy comes along and brings them instant success and a championship. But they were already the best team in the league 2 years running, would have been a 3rd year whether he hopped on board or not.

One season, a season where he only played 60 games at that, just doesn't give him qualification yet in my book. Look at it this way, if he were to be traded, or have a season ending injury or something, when you look back 20 years from now to make the All-Time Warriors squad you aren't going to throw in some guy who had one really good year with them and that's all. So I don't feel the need to add him just because that championship is still fresh.

That's just my opinion though. I'm just glad these rosters are fully editable. I've typically done an All-Time roster every year since 2k10 or so and my general requirement is 4 seasons (though there are exceptions). I'm glad that this game will give me a great base to start with and we can all add our own twists where we see them fit!


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Definitely and longevity should count for something. Some players are just legends for staying with a team for a long time, thus being remembered as a player on that team, and being very good with maybe 1 All-Star appearance while others played for the franchise only a couple of years and happen to make a big impact for a short while and even an All-Star once or more.

For example, Barkley should not be on the All-Time Rockets team. Not because of him necessarily, there's just many great ones ahead of him who were Rockets for a long time and remembered as such as opposed to his one great year in 97 and then falling off gradually for the next 3. He's a Suns legend, not a Rockets one. On the other hand, a guy like Otis Thorpe should make it. He was a champion, will always be remembered as a Rocket and was there for 5-6 years during his peak.
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He's made two all star teams, and the only thing he's the best at compared to the others is scoring. He's easily dead last at the other end of the court, he can't rebound, and it's not like he's sustained being an excellent scorer, it's literally only been one season.
Thomas career:
23 pts per 36 minutes
21.0 PER (59 TS% on 27 USG%)

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Dennis Johnson was an all star with Boston, won multiple championships, made 6 consecutive defensive first teams, and more importantly was just a better team player in general.
Dennis Johnson was a 1x All-Star with Boston. Yeah, he made All-Defensive teams, but it's not like we consider Patrick Beverley an All-Time Rocket. His biggest claim to fame was that he played with Larry Bird. He wasn't the man responsible for leading his team to 50-60 wins. He was the #5 guy.

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Cousy won 6 rings with Boston, was a 13 time all star, one of the 50 greatest players, led the league in assists 8 times, led the league in playoff scoring 3 times, playoff assists 8 times, made the All-NBA first team 10 times, 2nd team twice, won the league MVP and finished in the top 5 four separate times, 8 seasons he was top 10 in scoring, 6 seasons in the top 10 for PER.
In the 1950s, in a 10-team league, so I mean, who cares. It's not like you're gonna carry the torch for Ed Macauley.

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I'm sorry but Thomas's career doesn't come remotely close to even touching Cousy's, much less just the 2 seasons he's had in Boston. He hasn't been a part of the team long enough to even deserve consideration.
Bob Cousy couldn't even dribble with his left hand. There's a big difference between 2017 and 1951. Cousy might be one of the NBA's pioneers but he's far from an all-time great.

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Not to mention if we factor in team fit at all Thomas would be the worst of them all. In a head to head matchup against every other franchises best point guard ever he's going to be a completely liability at the defensive end.
The vast majority of point guards are total liabilities at the defensive end. The all-time great defensive point guards are still only 2-3 wins above replacement level.

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At the offensive end he's a pure scorer, which is just more possessions that guys like Bird, McHale, etc aren't touching the ball as much as they should.
Thomas didn't play with those guys so his fit next to them is largely irrelevant. If Allen Iverson's best seasons came in a Boston uniform, would you be making the same arguments?
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Definitely and longevity should count for something. Some players are just legends for staying with a team for a long time, thus being remembered as a player on that team, and being very good with maybe 1 All-Star appearance while others played for the franchise only a couple of years and happen to make a big impact for a short while and even an All-Star once or more.

For example, Barkley should not be on the All-Time Rockets team. Not because of him necessarily, there's just many great ones ahead of him who were Rockets for a long time and remembered as such as opposed to his one great year in 97 and then falling off gradually for the next 3. He's a Suns legend, not a Rockets one. On the other hand, a guy like Otis Thorpe should make it. He was a champion, will always be remembered as a Rocket and was there for 5-6 years during his peak.
Charles Barkley shouldn't be on the All-Time Rockets team because he didn't perform at an elite level with the team. Correlating PRIME Kevin Durant to broken Charles Barkley makes no sense whatsoever.
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People seriously think Durant should be on the All-Time Warriors team??? Over Sprewell even? That's just insane. Knowing 2k though, Durant will be in.
Sprewell, while one of my favorite players in the 90s, was an overrated bum.
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GS has been around forever, and Rick Barry, Chris Mullin are both two of the best small forwards to play the game.
LMFAO

Durant is literally a top 3 SF ever
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